DeaneG
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I am going to wait until PG&E makes the EV rate plan announcement. I've already second-guessed and changed strategy enough times.
They're wise to that. I believe you can only switch once a year. (Yes, I know you were joking.)DeaneG said:I may have to call in and switch rate plans twice a year
I have been tracking the numbers.DeaneG said:So far I have had two PG&E reps tell me that to have an E9A rate and also account for net generation from my PV system, I need to have an old-style net meter installed. I had an opposing rep today who confirmed with her supervisor that my existing smartmeter could do it instead.
Any bets how it turns out? Or better, any facts?
Right now, with a Smartmeter and on E1 rates, I can check PG&E's website and see than the sum of my hourly bars for a given day exactly matches my indicated total energy usage for that day. But my net generation (negative consumption) during the afternoon shows up as zero height bars and also counts as zero in the daily sum.
I haven't gone backward yet to see if my monthly bill is based off (month end reading - month start reading), or from the sum of the erroneous daily totals.
greenleaf said:I can tell you that it is NOT based on month end reading - month start reading. Instead it is based on the erroneous daily totals. So any energy that you push back onto the grid is given FREE to PG&E. They can do this with the Smart meter.
Ah, but an old-style analog meter can't give you a 6 cent/kWh rate in the middle of the night. Everything I'm reading here makes it sound like you folks need an "old-style" digital meter. That does do TOU and supports correct net use billing.greenleaf said:DeaneG said:If we still had the old style analog meter, they would not be able to cheat on the energy we generate.
Oh, that comment was applicable only with solar PV and during the waiting period for PG&E to activate net metering.planet4ever said:Ah, but an old-style analog meter can't give you a 6 cent/kWh rate in the middle of the night. Everything I'm reading here makes it sound like you folks need an "old-style" digital meter. That does do TOU and supports correct net use billing.greenleaf said:DeaneG said:If we still had the old style analog meter, they would not be able to cheat on the energy we generate.
DeaneG said:Any bets how it turns out?
I'm in. This whole giving PG&E free power while we wait for them to switch out meters is absurd. I've now given them 430 kWh of free power, plus, on my end, I'm still having to pay my monthly solar loan payment that's around $275!!! :evil:mwalsh said:DeaneG said:Any bets how it turns out?
My guess would be class action lawsuit.
greenleaf said:My power generated so far is 204 kWh. I probably consumed about 20% of it, the rest were donated to PG&E.
Actually, I am normally in Tier 3 territory.leaf561 said:greenleaf said:My power generated so far is 204 kWh. I probably consumed about 20% of it, the rest were donated to PG&E.
40kWh/month consumption is pretty low. It seems you are way below your baseline quota.
And probably don't need a solar system But that might change after you get your car
The baseline rate is highly subsidized and the cost to generate kW/h from solar is way higher.
It's worse than that - you're not supposed to have the system turned on until you get the PG&E letter.cinmar said:.. This whole giving PG&E free power while we wait for them to switch out meters is absurd...
greenleaf said:Actually, I am normally in Tier 3 territory.
To clarify, the 204 kWh is generated over about 3 weeks in the daytime. Of this, I consumed about 40 kWh. The 40 kWh does NOT include the bulk of the power I used in the early morning, evening and night.
DeaneG said:It's worse than that - you're not supposed to have the system turned on until you get the PG&E letter.cinmar said:.. This whole giving PG&E free power while we wait for them to switch out meters is absurd...
I called PG&E yesterday afternoon, and received an email this morning saying that someone would be out within 10 days to swap in a TOU meter. They did have 7 weeks to warm up for this though.
cinmar said:Hmmm...this is interesting in my case. My system was turned on for a day to test, then off the 2nd day, then back on the 3rd day until now (nearly 5 weeks later). I assume that means that PG&E allowed it to be on, but has yet to swap my meter.
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