Valdemar said:Too many variables at play to make a meaningful prediction. Only one thing is certain - they will cost less than today.
It will depend more on the state of the EV market then. If there is a dearth of EVs available, then the EV community will covet these cars and you'll have a lively aftermarket for parts and replacement batteries. If you can buy new cars that have 3x the range for $25k, then no one will want one of these old LEAFs.ampitupco said:What if gas is $10/gal in 2019 dollars?
gor29 said:It seems they are currently going for $9000 now. What is to be expected and why?
ampitupco said:Valdemar said:Too many variables at play to make a meaningful prediction. Only one thing is certain - they will cost less than today.
What if gas is $10/gal in 2019 dollars?
Agreed... most of the ones I've seen for $9k have terrible battery degradation, relatively high mileage, or both. You should be able to find one that had its previous life in a northern state (i.e. battery still in good shape) and low mileage in that price range.edatoakrun said:BTW, if you want to get the same benefit, by buying a 2011 LEAF today, I'd recommend you pay ~$11-12k for a very clean low-mileage SL with a DC port, rather than a ~$9,000 beater.
edatoakrun said:My leaf has had the lowest total-cost-of-ownership of any new car in its class, over the last four years.
ishiyakazuo said:Agreed... most of the ones I've seen for $9k have terrible battery degradation
That would be my guess. Clean, relatively few miles (say, <50k) on the higher end of that range.gor29 said:...And if a running car even with short range is worth at least $1000 ($500?), then this would put the estimate at $1000-$3000?
I hope so!dgpcolorado said:I wonder if Nissan will still supply new batteries for the old short-range LEAFs in 2019?
I expect they will still offer a lower-range version to keep the entry cost low. My hope is that the modules will be the same physically and electrically but that they will have a higher capacity. Perhaps we can get an upgrade that way.dgpcolorado said:I presume that they will be building only higher range generation 2 models by then, which will use completely different battery packs (in both form and function).
ishiyakazuo said:Agreed... most of the ones I've seen for $9k have terrible battery degradation, relatively high mileage, or both. You should be able to find one that had its previous life in a northern state (i.e. battery still in good shape) and low mileage in that price range.edatoakrun said:BTW, if you want to get the same benefit, by buying a 2011 LEAF today, I'd recommend you pay ~$11-12k for a very clean low-mileage SL with a DC port, rather than a ~$9,000 beater.
Actually, I expect that a LEAF battery pack alone with only ~ 50% of it's original available capacity will likely be worth ~ that much, in 2019, ~ $50 to $100 per kWh, to buyers wanting to get kWh storage for stationary uses on the cheap.gor29 said:...if a running car even with short range is worth at least $1000 ($500?)...?
gor29 said:But in 2019, rather than pay $3000 for an old 2011 leaf and $6000 for a new battery for $9000 total, wouldn't buyers rather pay $9000 for a 4-year old 2015 leaf with lizard battery?
Answer the same question with some more likely (IMO) cost assumptions:gor29 said:But in 2019, rather than pay $3000 for an old 2011 leaf and $6000 for a new battery for $9000 total, wouldn't buyers rather pay $9000 for a 4-year old 2015 leaf with lizard battery?
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