Ready2plugin
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Yes, not sure what I would of done if I knew all the costs upfront.
You might have done what I did. I went down to the local Home Depot, bought something less than $50 worth of parts, and put in my own new 120v circuit complete with a subpanel and 20A circuit breaker. I didn't bother mentioning it to the city.Ready2plugin said:Yes, not sure what I would of done if I knew all the costs upfront.
Probably something I will consider doing too when the Leviton 240V/16A units are out next year. Parts (other than the EVSE) should be less than $100:planet4ever said:You might have done what I did. I went down to the local Home Depot, bought something less than $50 worth of parts, and put in my own new 120v circuit complete with a subpanel and 20A circuit breaker. I didn't bother mentioning it to the city.Ready2plugin said:Yes, not sure what I would of done if I knew all the costs upfront.
greenleaf said:Probably something I will consider doing too when the Leviton 240V/16A units are out next year. Parts (other than the EVSE) should be less than $100:planet4ever said:You might have done what I did. I went down to the local Home Depot, bought something less than $50 worth of parts, and put in my own new 120v circuit complete with a subpanel and 20A circuit breaker. I didn't bother mentioning it to the city.Ready2plugin said:Yes, not sure what I would of done if I knew all the costs upfront.
25' of #10 wire (oversized in case I want to go 24A in future)
6-20R outlet
MP22020 breaker
garygid said:You could just install two 120v sockets, each on a 20A breaker, but one on Line1 and one on Line2. That should pass inspection OK.
Then, with the right adapter, plugging into both sockets, you have 240v ... but might not have been forced to upgrade your panel.
Perhaps these circuits would need to be just conveniently located "utility" plugs, with no mention of their possible later use for EV charging?
Or, perhaps better, if L1 (120v) EVSE use is OK, you might specify that one socket is intended for 12 to 16 amp charging, and the other for convenience?
Rat said:We got our first full month bill for E9A...
I am interested to find out too.DeaneG said:Rat said:We got our first full month bill for E9A...
PG&E would give your E9a without a Leaf? Somebody in Sacramento specifically refused to do that for me.
Thanks. Looks like they raised tiers 1 and 2 and lowered tiers 3, 4, 5.edatoakrun said:New PG&E rates, as of today, at:
http://www.pge.com/tariffs/ERS.SHTML#ERS
greenleaf said:Thanks. Looks like they raised tiers 1 and 2 and lowered tiers 3, 4, 5.edatoakrun said:New PG&E rates, as of today, at:
http://www.pge.com/tariffs/ERS.SHTML#ERS
If I am reading the tables correctly, the rates for tier 3 and higher are reduced. They are not increased as depicted in your numbers.leaf561 said:greenleaf said:Thanks. Looks like they raised tiers 1 and 2 and lowered tiers 3, 4, 5.edatoakrun said:New PG&E rates, as of today, at:
http://www.pge.com/tariffs/ERS.SHTML#ERS
For E9A, it seems Tier 3 and 4 are higher. Which is not good for me, because previously E9A Tier 3 was almost same as E6 Tier 2 and I was hoping to avoid E9B (separate meter). The new rates doesn't look good
E9A Summer:
Peak:
Tier 1 - 0.314 to 0.30470
Tier 2 - 0.314 to 0.30470
Tier 3 - 0.36533 to 0.44575
Tier 4 - 0.40926 to 0.55542
Partial Peak:
Tier 1 - 0.11439 to 0.11135
Tier 2 - 0.11439 to 0.11135
Tier 3 - 0.16563 to 0.25240
Tier 4 - 0.20956 to 0.36207
Off-peak
Tier 1 - 0.054 to 0.0529
Tier 2 - 0.054 to 0.0529
Tier 3 - 0.10529 to 0.13998
Tier 4 - 0.14922 to 0.18172
Tier 5 - 0.16910 to 0.18172
E9A Winter:
Partial Peak:
Tier 1 - 0.11426 to 0.11123
Tier 2 - 0.11426 to 0.11123
Tier 3 - 0.16550 to 0.25227
Tier 4 - 0.20943 to 0.36194
Off-peak
Tier 1 - 0.06328 to 0.06186
Tier 2 - 0.06328 to 0.06186
Tier 3 - 0.10529 to 0.13998
Tier 4 - 0.14922 to 0.18172
Tier 5 - 0.16910 to 0.18172
greenleaf said:If I am reading the tables correctly, the rates for tier 3 and higher are reduced. They are not increased as depicted in your numbers.
For example, E9a summer peak tier 3 drops from 0.45169 to 0.44575.
Oh I see. Historical rates can be found here:leaf561 said:greenleaf said:If I am reading the tables correctly, the rates for tier 3 and higher are reduced. They are not increased as depicted in your numbers.
For example, E9a summer peak tier 3 drops from 0.45169 to 0.44575.
I might be looking at an older rate:
Date Filed September 23, 2003
Effective October 1, 2003
Yep. I requested it on the EV help line and the guy made the arrangements, but now I hear this issue is handled at the local level, and I know another Leaf buyer who got his E9 meter even earlier than I did and when he consulted with PG&E about a panel upgrade and how it would be metered and told told them he would be getting his Leaf soon, they came and yanked the TOU meter out because he didn't have the car yet. I definitely told the EV guy that I did not yet have the Leaf. Maybe he assumes I have a Tesla.DeaneG said:PG&E would give your E9a without a Leaf? Somebody in Sacramento specifically refused to do that for me.Rat said:We got our first full month bill for E9A...
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