I can also delete that last post if you like. I deleted our earlier ones.
Thanks for the anecdotes.cwerdna said:If you had a carSageBrush said:Very few failures. The motors were replaced due to noise and only in the context of other-worldly customer support by Tesla.Lothsahn said:Nearly 40% of 2012 Teslas have had the drive unit replaced?
Besides, it was first year model, small numbers were made, and it was resolved quickly.
-SalisburySam said:Back to the topic, I question the viability of a battery replacement at almost any cost above a few thousand dollars for a 2011-2013 vintage car. Just doesn’t seem to work.
SalisburySam said:I’m beginning to wonder how desirable a non-warranty replacement battery will actually be for a 2011-2012-early2013 LEAF. I’ve signed up with Fenix Power for a battery replacement/subscription if/when their product becomes viable, but there has been little progress and the latest news on their website is dated October 2018. At some point as an original 2012 owner, I’m probably going to say the vehicle just isn’t worth the cost regardless of how much I like the car. Even with a new 24kwhr battery, I’ll still only get 70+ miles, far better financially to get a 2015 at the same price or so for the around-town runabout. But I really, really like my electronic parking brake so what do I do?
To put it mildly.Lothsahn said:I still assert, as a reservation holder, that Fenix is extremely high risk and unlikely to pan out.
Our guiding principle behind our engineering and design is that we believe the battery is NOT a component of the car, but rather a part of the fuel.
Buy your Batteries: $1,500 installation, approximately $6,000 for the battery modules, and a reasonable monthly service plan.
GerryAZ said:I most likely will not buy a replacement 24 kWh battery with only 60,000-mile capacity warranty at current prices because it makes more sense to buy a new car, take the tax credit again, and have a longer range car with a 100,000-mile battery warranty.
Lothsahn said:I just called Nissan about a replacement battery because my 2011 Nissan leaf is down to 8 bars and I only get about 35 miles on a charge. I was informed that the battery replacement cost is now $7000 plus labor and taxes (up from $5499). This means replacement costs are around $8500. This change occurred a couple months ago. I expressed my displeasure that as battery pack costs continue to drop, Nissan has actually raised their pack pricing.
Wanted to warn everyone out there that this change occurred. This makes it significantly more expensive to repair your used Nissan Leaf, so plan accordingly. It doesn't look like Nissan has any plans to lower pack pricing as manufacturing costs drop.
Also, they said the refurbished battery program in Japan likely won't be coming to the US anytime soon due to EPA regulations.
References:
[1] https://insideevs.com/breaking-nissan-prices-leaf-battery-replacement-5499-new-packs-heat-durable/
[2] https://electrek.co/2017/01/30/electric-vehicle-battery-cost-dropped-80-6-years-227kwh-tesla-190kwh/
Eddie16 said:Was the $8500 cost for a 24kwh battery, or larger? Reason I ask is that I thought I had read somewhere, that Nissan does all replacements with 40kwh packs.
I have a 2016 with a 30kwh pack that has lost 2 bars. As of Aug 2021, a Denver-area Nissan dealer quoted a cash price of $13,500 to install a 40kwh pack. If your quote was actually for a 40kwh pack replacement, then Nissan battery prices are increasing exponentially!
So much for the “circular economy” the ivory-tower environmental economists talk about. LOL
Lothsahn said:I just called Nissan about a replacement battery because my 2011 Nissan leaf is down to 8 bars and I only get about 35 miles on a charge. I was informed that the battery replacement cost is now $7000 plus labor and taxes (up from $5499). This means replacement costs are around $8500. This change occurred a couple months ago. I expressed my displeasure that as battery pack costs continue to drop, Nissan has actually raised their pack pricing.
Wanted to warn everyone out there that this change occurred. This makes it significantly more expensive to repair your used Nissan Leaf, so plan accordingly. It doesn't look like Nissan has any plans to lower pack pricing as manufacturing costs drop.
Also, they said the refurbished battery program in Japan likely won't be coming to the US anytime soon due to EPA regulations.
References:
[1] https://insideevs.com/breaking-nissan-prices-leaf-battery-replacement-5499-new-packs-heat-durable/
[2] https://electrek.co/2017/01/30/electric-vehicle-battery-cost-dropped-80-6-years-227kwh-tesla-190kwh/
The number you quoted (bolded by me above) is slightly above what it cost me to do a 24->40 kWh pack upgrade myself (https://www.electricauto.org/blog/keeping-your-nissan-leaf). That doesn't count the CAN-bridge converter (probably not necessary in your case) or what I "recovered" through the sale of my (old) battery pack, but it's in the ballpark.Eddie16 said:Was the $8500 cost for a 24kwh battery, or larger? Reason I ask is that I thought I had read somewhere, that Nissan does all replacements with 40kwh packs.
I have a 2016 with a 30kwh pack that has lost 2 bars. As of Aug 2021, a Denver-area Nissan dealer quoted a cash price of $13,500 to install a 40kwh pack. If your quote was actually for a 40kwh pack replacement, then Nissan battery prices are increasing exponentially!
RawhideKid said:Well, i took my 2017 leaf into Coulter Nissan today for a battery check, and luckily for me, it has degraded sufficiently to be covered under a full replacement for free. I’m glad, given we really like our Leaf. They will order one in and let me know when it arrives for the installation.
BUT, I had a very interesting chat - it was closing time so I didn’t get many details. The customer service rep said “sure is good thing yours is under warranty!” I said why..”You know how expensive those are to replace off warranty?” I said its been a few years since I looked at it, but I thought maybe 6k. He said “nope. 20k!” “No way” i said.
He said “I’ll show you - pulled up the warranty request paperwork for my Leaf and sure enough, $19,000 for the battery and $1,000 for labor. I was shocked. He said another one, a 2015 with 80k miles on it, came through earlier the prior week and was not under warranty and the lady was appalled. “I don’t blame her” I said.
Very glad our is under warranty - big reason we searched out a 2017 with the longer warranty to buy - a showroom demo with 500 miles on it, for $17k - basically new, off the floor.
Not sure we will get another battery replaced under warranty, but he as heck we won’t pay 20k for one if not. Incredible. I’ll post more details as I get them, including what size battery that was quoted.
RHK
That explains a $10k price. The other $10k is Nissan humorDaveinOlyWA said:More expensive, yes but its a 40 kwh pack that has better chemistry than your OEM.
I might be laughing...all the way to the bank (although some of you may disagree).SageBrush said:That explains a $10k price. The other $10k is Nissan humorDaveinOlyWA said:More expensive, yes but its a 40 kwh pack that has better chemistry than your OEM.
Stanton said:I did my 24kWh->40kWh battery upgrade for ~$12k "all in" (bought Gen2 salvage Leaf/sold Gen1 battery pack) and I've noticed that (salvaged) car prices have done nothing but go up since I did mine earlier this year.
That is exactly what I intend to do, and with the Leaf's (good) track record I may be very happy for a long time.alozzy said:If I did the upgrade, I would definitely plan on driving it into the ground.
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