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lion said:
Almost bought a RAV4 EV instead, but since my local Toyota dealer wasn't too excited about servicing the car, I gave up on the idea. Disappointed not getting it, but very excited with the LEAF, more than I thought I would be.

Probably a good decision. My local Nissan dealer has sold only a handful of LEAFs. They have two trained LEAF "specialists", all the special equipment, and really want to do a good job servicing it but the truth is they don't have a lot of experience. As a result every issue needs lots of time to research.

Now imagine a situation where the local dealer has no training in the RAV4 EV, no experience, and isn't really interested in working on it. You'd have to hope nothing went wrong.

And yes ... most of us who get a LEAF are more thrilled with the car than we thought we'd be. That's why now I have two. ;)
 
Yep, you're right, the more I think about, the more I realize I did make the right decision (no matter how much I still would buy one if given the opportunity lol). My dealer only has 1 LEAF tech, he's also their GT-R tech (must be one cool dude, getting to work on all that cool hardware), but I do have plans to get more EVs on the roads in my state.

I liked the LEAF on paper, LOVED the 2012 test drive (think it was a white SV, with a white or gray interior), but when I picked up my black 2013 with black leather interior, wow, absolutely (still) in awe.
 
What I have been amazed at is the amount of interest the car brings (I live in Chicago-land north side). At nearly every charging station I visit, or even parking lot for that matter, someone approaches asking if the car really works, and is useful with its range. (I say about 100 miles if you drive conservatively) I would have thought by now 3 years into the electric revolution LEAF's would have been more ho-hum. Its been a great conversation piece.
 
DougWantsALeaf said:
What I have been amazed at is the amount of interest the car brings (I live in Chicago-land north side). At nearly every charging station I visit, or even parking lot for that matter, someone approaches asking if the car really works, and is useful with its range. (I say about 100 miles if you drive conservatively) I would have thought by now 3 years into the electric revolution LEAF's would have been more ho-hum. Its been a great conversation piece.

Really? I'm very interested to hear that because here in ... backwoods ... Colorado NO ONE asks about the LEAF. No one notices it at all from what we can tell.

Ok, since we added the mynissanleaf.com license plate frame to one of the LEAFs - it has "100% ELECTRIC" in big letters on the bottom - we have gotten one question. But the person asking clearly didn't know the LEAF from any other small car - he was reacting to the words 100% ELECTRIC.

I have no idea why. I mean, even when hooking up to the EVSE at the local Walgreens no one seems to notice us at all. The few other local EV owners have said the same thing.
 
DougWantsALeaf said:
What I have been amazed at is the amount of interest the car brings ... At nearly every charging station I visit, or even parking lot for that matter, someone approaches asking if the car really works, and is useful with its range. ... I would have thought by now 3 years into the electric revolution LEAF's would have been more ho-hum. Its been a great conversation piece.
Having driven the LEAF two years now, I'm surprised by how much people commenting on or asking about the car varies.
When I first got it, there probably weren't 5 of them in the city, and I got probably 3 or 4 questions / comments per week for the first couple months. But over the next year, I don't think I got more than 3 or 4 comments / questions total. But it seems to have picked up recently. Had two comments / questions on the same day last week.
But the majority of people don't really recognize that it is all electric. They seem to recognize it as efficient (90% thinking it is hybrid or PHEV).
I get more questions / comments while at DCFC. Probably one question / comment per 5 times.
The # of LEAFs in service in the city has increased quite a bit in two years. Probably something like 70 to 120 in service now. Nothing like Pacific northwest, or CA, or even Nashville that probably has 400+, but it is picking up. My next door neighbor leased one. :D :D Two on the same street! :D :D
 
When we were buying our Leaf last week I asked sales person how is the business. He told me that they go as soon as they come. I see them everywhere I go. Costco on Saturday, Lowes last week. My wife saw couple around her job.
 
I asked my local dealer (one of the bigger ones in my area) how well they sell, and it sounds like they don't even sell 1 per month. I plan on changing that, but I'm really surprised considering this area has more chargers than other areas in this state (ignoring NYC/downstate).
 
Hello, I picked up my Leaf Saturday in Louisville, Ky. We have very few charging stations here, basically Nissan dealerships, and no quick chargers. I need to look into investing in a level 2 charger. Please give me any tips/suggestions you have. So far, I really like the car. I just wish Nissan would invest in installing high speed chargers in our community. BTW, mine is a 2013 SL, 24 month lease, $245 per mo/ with $2,000 down. Thanks for all your advise. I look forward to being a part of the community!
 
Just picked up our leased Ocean Blue 2013 Leaf SV w/ QC last night. So far I love it! My wife got to drive it on her commute today and she was very pleased. Having fun figuring out all the new gadgets and gizmos, best charging practices and range abilities. It will primarily be our second car and my wife's part-time commuter, at least until someone comes out with an affordable EV SUV with a decent range.
 
LouiLeaf said:
Hello, I picked up my Leaf Saturday in Louisville, Ky. We have very few charging stations here, basically Nissan dealerships, and no quick chargers. I need to look into investing in a level 2 charger. Please give me any tips/suggestions you have. So far, I really like the car. I just wish Nissan would invest in installing high speed chargers in our community. BTW, mine is a 2013 SL, 24 month lease, $245 per mo/ with $2,000 down. Thanks for all your advise. I look forward to being a part of the community!

Congrats on your lease! For the Level 2 charger, there are more and more options coming on the market each day. I know the most basic is doing an upgrade of sorts to your Level 1 charger (the one that comes with the car). I can't find the link at the moment, but there's info on the boards here for it. Basically, you send off your charger cable, and they do an upgrade to it so it may be plugged into the 240 volt outlet to charge the car at the faster rate. I believe they also provide an adapter so that you may still use it as a Level 1 charger.

I think there's an option where they send you a temporary level 1 cable while they do the upgrade. I know the upgrade is more than just changing the plug. I think there's some work to be done in the black box as well.

Alternately, check online with Lowe's and Home Depot. When I last checked, Home Depot offered at least three models online for less than $800. If you have some electrical ability and room in your panel, you might be able to install it yourself. I'd check with your municipality to see if a permit is required.

I don't know if the the EV Project (http://www.theevproject.com/) is still providing free or discounted chargers to folks, but I am guessing you already checked there?

I think you'll enjoy the car!
 
My story is a little different than most of you who have posted because I didn't order one. I have been admiring the LEAF for awhile, especially since the 2013s are built in Tennessee, and reading a lot about it, but it just wasn't in my price range, even though I'm a teacher with a second job. I told my husband that one day I would own one, thinking that would be far in the future. I have been driving the same car for 15 years and I was starting to realize that it was time to pass that old subaru on to some teenager that likes to work on cars, but still didn't think I could afford a LEAF. Then, there it was in the paper: HUGE Nissan Sale! $6,500 off a new LEAF. The morning I saw that ad, I decided it was time to do some preliminary car browsing...should I test drive the Prius first, also on sale, or the LEAF? Decided to go to Nissan first and they had only one, a white SV. Only one person at the dealership had been to all the training about the LEAF and he was as excited as I was. You could tell he didn't get much opportunity to share what he had learned. I peppered him with questions and when they crunched the numbers for me, taking the 6500 off and then the 7500 rebate off the top as well, the price dropped down to the low 20s, which IS in my price range, and I decided to lease it. I've never leased before, but the thought of what LEAFs will be like in 3 years made me think I might want to get the new model at the end of the lease. It isn't just the zero emissions and no gas station visits, except maybe to fill up tires or pee, what really pushed me over to the YES! side was when I asked what the scheduled maintenance is: "Rotate the tires every 7500 miles, which we'll program into your car to remind you so you don't have to remember yourself." I waited for more and finally asked, "And what else?" "Well, you might need a new wiper blade once in awhile." Electric cars are simple and easy!!! My 15-year-old car, as wonderful as it was, was an old lady living in assisted living: new sensors here ($750), new transmission twice and maybe needing a third (thousands), 4 quarts of oil poured into it every 2 weeks, torn seats, almost time for new timing belt, etc. and I cringe to think of what her emissions are. Internal combustion engines are far too complicated, dirty, mysterious and expensive to drive. After I signed all the paperwork, they told me I was the first in Roanoke, Va to own one. They had only sold 2 others and they were to people in other towns in Virginia. People that I have shown have been very impressed but I am surprised at how uncomfortable many people are with new ideas. Driving without gas? I've had several people tell my how brave I am to make this commitment, which surprised me. I can think of a lot of other commitments that take a lot more courage: getting married, getting divorced, having children, getting a new mortgage, quitting a job, moving, signing up for a triathalon. Signing a lease on a car that you refuel at home and which is under warranty and free roadside assistance the whole life of the lease, really doesn't take that much courage.

Empty nesters should be jumping at the LEAF. We are not driving kids all over the place, so we pretty much know how far we'll be driving each day. We usually have another car that we can use for out of town travel. Are kids have flown the nest and we are ready for our lives to be simpler with more me time...at least for a couple more decades before our bodies start needing to be fixed. We've been concerned about the environment since the 70s and wonder what is taking us so long to change, we are a big part of the local foods movement, etc.

By the way, leasing this LEAF was completely my idea. My husband didn't even go with me to the dealership. I think he worried I was being foolish. Now he keeps talking about when he gets one.
 
Welcome and congratulations on getting your dream car, apfeiffer!
apfeiffer said:
By the way, leasing this LEAF was completely my idea. My husband didn't even go with me to the dealership. I think he worried I was being foolish. Now he keeps talking about when he gets one.
Your husband is not alone. Most people do not believe EVs are for real until they have experienced them. Truly, this revolution will be made one person at a time.
 
apfeiffer said:
... what really pushed me over to the YES! side was when I asked what the scheduled maintenance is: "Rotate the tires every 7500 miles, which we'll program into your car to remind you so you don't have to remember yourself." I waited for more and finally asked, "And what else?" "Well, you might need a new wiper blade once in awhile." Electric cars are simple and easy!!!
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By the way, leasing this LEAF was completely my idea. My husband didn't even go with me to the dealership.
Congratulations and Welcome apfeiffer!!! :D :D
I've been driving a 2011 LEAF two years now and driving it still makes me smile. :D :D
You are correct that low maintenance is one of the LEAF virtues.
But the dealer did fail to mention the annual battery test (paid for by Nissan the first two years)
And also failed to mention the brake fluid flush required at 2 years / 24,000 miles whichever comes first. Depending on the dealer runs something like $90 to $110, but you might be able to get it done at lower cost.
And make sure your dealer does a 12V battery capacity test at least once a year too.
Dealer had to replace my 12V battery at no cost under warranty at the two year mark.
 
I officially took delivery on my 2013 Nissan Leaf SV. It's pearl white with the quick charge / LED headlight package. My wife works for a Nissan vendor supplier so we got VPP price on a 2yr lease. $212 a month! We live in Saint Clair Shores, Michigan and I don't see too many Leafs. It really gets a lot of looks. I build, repair, and restore guitars for a living. http://www.renchguitarwerks.com The Leaf makes it possible via lease (it's a business deduction for use) to offer free pickup and delivery service for my customers guitars. Drove it for the first time ever today and I am totally blown away. It's a great vehicle. I replaced a 2001 Toyota Tacoma pickup that I did use for running errands. I probably never put more than 40 miles in a day and most are far less. I am totally surprised as to how many Level 2 charge stations there are in the Metro Detroit Area. There is even a couple Level 3 chargers around. I am sure the numbers will grow.

So count me in!! I am a new Leafy.

Mike R
 
Started a 2 year lease on our Leaf today. There was a deal at Premier Nissan in San Jose for $3499 down and $99/mo on SV models (or $1800 down and $99/mo on S models, but we wanted the Navigation). I thought that was an insane deal, but we checked around a little more...called the Nissan dealership in Dublin and they said the best they could do was $3400 and $94/mo, but that the additional savings ($220) might not really be worth the drive for us.

We told the guys are Premier Nissan that we found a better deal, and though they wanted it in writing, we did get the car and color we wanted at the Dublin price through Premier. There's also some program going on where you can get a free in-home charger (the 240V one) with basic installation covered (I doubt it'll be completely free after all is said and done). They have a certain amount they can give per month or something, but you have to apply for it the same day you buy/lease the vehicle. So we qualified for that...now I just need to hear back saying we'll get one. Fingers crossed.

If I recharge at my house every time and don't use the free stations available, the monthly cost of ownership is still less than gas for my Honda. Still have a very limited range, but I really only go back and forth to work. For bigger trips, we have an Acura MDX. So the $3400 down enabled us to give the Honda to my wife's dad who's driving a real POS. Spread across 2 years, I'd say this is probably the best deal I could have made that involved a new car.

So far, very excited about my 2yr "trial". If it goes well, perhaps I'll buy it and other EVs in the future.

EDIT: Forgot to add that the prices offered were because of the VPP program. Both of our companies were on the list, though for some reason mine wasn't working, so we just used hers. But if you're on the list, you can take advantage of some great pricing!
 
ptsLeaf said:
There's also some program going on where you can get a free in-home charger (the 240V one) with basic installation covered (I doubt it'll be completely free after all is said and done). They have a certain amount they can give per month or something, but you have to apply for it the same day you buy/lease the vehicle. So we qualified for that...now I just need to hear back saying we'll get one. Fingers crossed
Yay! Maybe you're referring to http://evsolutions.avinc.com/products/cec/cec_program_overview" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;. It says there are only 6 EVSEs left right now.
 
We just got a brand new 2013 Leaf SL yesterday. The red one. We already have a 2010 Prius and we traded in my beat up 2000 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo in the process.

Let me be clear: I loved that Jeep. I didn't love the gas mileage or how much it cost to fill it up.

As things continued to break on my Jeep due to it just being used as a Jeep over the years I knew its time was up. Since my wife basically only used the Prius to drive 15 miles to work and back five days a week I began to wonder why she even needed to use gas at all. It didn't take much research to figure out a Leaf would fit her needs pretty well. All I had to do was convince her of the same thing. One test drive later and here I am posting on a Leaf new owner forum.

My friends and family think we are crazy. Old habits die hard, I guess. My thinking is if you have a second car for travelling long distances, or even just access to a second car, then an electric car should be your MAIN CAR. People wonder what we will do when the battery runs out, like it is a foregone conclusion that will happen. I have never run out of gas and I have no intention of running out of battery power, either. I doubt we will even come close 99% of the time. The more other people realize what you can accomplish in a day on a single battery charge the more Leafs Nissan will sell. I hope we can be a trailblazer in that regard and others will decide to follow our example, but I wonder what it will take to finally tip the scales away from traditional gasoline transportation. The tax break is nice but I think including a level 2 charger install with every new Leaf sold would help to eliminate one of the biggest barriers of entry.

Anyway, our Leaf had its first trip to work and back today and there was still over 50 miles of range remaining. A person can do a lot with 50 miles, but our Leaf is back in the garage charging for the same trip tomorrow. It is such a good feeling knowing we aren't beholden to a gas pump anymore! Well, my wife isn't.
 
loomis2 said:
My friends and family think we are crazy. Old habits die hard, I guess. My thinking is if you have a second car for travelling long distances, or even just access to a second car, then an electric car should be your MAIN CAR. People wonder what we will do when the battery runs out, like it is a foregone conclusion that will happen. I have never run out of gas and I have no intention of running out of battery power, either. I doubt we will even come close 99% of the time. The more other people realize what you can accomplish in a day on a single battery charge the more Leafs Nissan will sell. I hope we can be a trailblazer in that regard and others will decide to follow our example, but I wonder what it will take to finally tip the scales away from traditional gasoline transportation. The tax break is nice but I think including a level 2 charger install with every new Leaf sold would help to eliminate one of the biggest barriers of entry.

Anyway, our Leaf had its first trip to work and back today and there was still over 50 miles of range remaining. A person can do a lot with 50 miles, but our Leaf is back in the garage charging for the same trip tomorrow. It is such a good feeling knowing we aren't beholden to a gas pump anymore! Well, my wife isn't.

Congrats on the purchase. And yes old thinking dies very slowly. Next time somebody asks you "What happens when the battery runs out" just say "The same thing I do with my cell phone or laptop...I plug it in."

Oh, and learn to ignore the Estimated Range to Empty meter, which is often referred to as the "Guess-O-Meter" or GOM on these forums. Just like with a gas car (called an ICE for Internal Combustion Engine) after a while you will know how far you can go with the remaining charge left based on expected driving conditions.
 
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