GRA
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Moab just popped up on Tesla's SC page and map, so 68 (69 including Syosset, not sure why they haven't listed it; it's at a service center, but so what?).
Great stuff! 508Wh/mile from Worthington MN to Mitchell SD at 65-70 mph and -3 F with the heater at 72 deg; 130 miles with 21 left after a range charge (257 miles). They're going to need a few more SCs in Minnesota and SD if 60s and Model Es are to be able to do this in winter.Zythryn said:Fun post from a father and daughter making, quite possibly, the first coast to coast supercharger trip.
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GRA said:Great stuff! 508Wh/mile from Worthington MN to Mitchell SD at 65-70 mph and -3 F with the heater at 72 deg; 130 miles with 21 left after a range charge (257 miles). They're going to need a few more SCs in Minnesota and SD if 60s and Model Es are to be able to do this in winter.Zythryn said:Fun post from a father and daughter making, quite possibly, the first coast to coast supercharger trip.
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Yes, it's great data. I'm big fan of establishing performance in worst case conditions, cause then you can guarantee at least that much range (not counting battery degradation in this case). Much of the trip from the east coast involved pushing the car in absolutely awful weather, so lot's of valuable data is being provided by this trip. I wish we had more range data like this in various EV forums, instead of testing in ideal conditions and then providing correction factors. I believe the latter approach is more valuable for engineers, but worst case real-world is more valuable info for (potential) owners, especially those considering buying a day-in, day-out car.Zythryn said:GRA said:Great stuff! 508Wh/mile from Worthington MN to Mitchell SD at 65-70 mph and -3 F with the heater at 72 deg; 130 miles with 21 left after a range charge (257 miles). They're going to need a few more SCs in Minnesota and SD if 60s and Model Es are to be able to do this in winter.Zythryn said:Fun post from a father and daughter making, quite possibly, the first coast to coast supercharger trip.
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Undoubtedly, luckily they are planning more.
However, considering this was likely the worst day of the year for that drive, and they did it on the lower efficiency 21" tires, I'm pretty psyched about it
Driving Barstow --> Las Vegas --> Kingman is a possibility that's been floated at TMC. It's longer, but easier in terms of SC spacing and not bad if you have a reason to stop in Vegas. (Work on a Las Vegas SC is underway.)GRA said:BTW, ran the Barstow - Kingman route using http://www.jurassictest.ch/GR/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; for both the S-60 and S-85, assuming five 75 kg. pax (Elon, five boys plus luggage, with the curb weights increased to 2025 and 2108 kg. per Tesla instead of the default values given) and no use of HVAC. The 85 can make it via I-40 if you keep the speed down to 65 or less, the 60 doesn't have a chance. If you take the side roads from Needles to cut off the big I-40 southbound loop, you can make it provided you drive 50 mph or less for the whole trip. Take it FWIW, but some posters at TMC have said that jurassictest is giving them useful results. There are several others, at least one designed by a Tesla owner, that are getting good reviews on TMC. They need another SC in Fenner or else Needles to make this leg feasible for 60s at freeway speeds.
Yes, 60s will need to make that detour, and that's why I listed Las Vegas in the nice-to-have category. It's really too close to LA to be a first night stop on a transcontinental trip. Even the run to Las Vegas will require some accomodation by 60 owners, as per jurassictest they can't make it at the speed limit if there's any headwind, and it's cutting it very fine even without one.abasile said:Driving Barstow --> Las Vegas --> Kingman is a possibility that's been floated at TMC. It's longer, but easier in terms of SC spacing and not bad if you have a reason to stop in Vegas. (Work on a Las Vegas SC is underway.)GRA said:BTW, ran the Barstow - Kingman route using http://www.jurassictest.ch/GR/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; for both the S-60 and S-85, assuming five 75 kg. pax (Elon, five boys plus luggage, with the curb weights increased to 2025 and 2108 kg. per Tesla instead of the default values given) and no use of HVAC. The 85 can make it via I-40 if you keep the speed down to 65 or less, the 60 doesn't have a chance. If you take the side roads from Needles to cut off the big I-40 southbound loop, you can make it provided you drive 50 mph or less for the whole trip. Take it FWIW, but some posters at TMC have said that jurassictest is giving them useful results. There are several others, at least one designed by a Tesla owner, that are getting good reviews on TMC. They need another SC in Fenner or else Needles to make this leg feasible for 60s at freeway speeds.
I think you mean the 1-10 corridor west of Houston.apvbguy said:I agree that having the SC network is great marketing but maybe you haven't noticed, compared to the I95/I75 corridors or even the I10 corridor east of Houston TX, there are no people or Teslas these far flung SC can be servicing. I'd love to see the 6 month usage stats for these remote locations
Right. Some of the SCs have the pedestals located so that you can park nose in, and that's going to be a problem for the ones in snow country because it makes plowing difficult, and the pedestals can easily be damaged by the plow or careless drivers. It's also more expensive, as you have to trench to and then cover a route to each individual pedestal instead of just having one lateral trench connecting them all.Randy said:Supercharger cords are only about 3 feet long because of the 120kW power flow at the beginning of the charge cycle...
So wherever they are located, you have to put the rear drivers side of the car right next to it...
Eau Claire, WI, with 6 stalls, and the temp site at Bethesda, MD, with 2 are now listed, so trips between Chicago-Twin Cities and Glen Allen-Newark are now doable in winter by S-60s.GRA said:Thought I'd present a total of SC stalls at this point and update as necessary, 'cause it's getting way too tedious to type them all in repeatedly. The states are listed in the order they appear on the official web page, alphabetically but divided roughly west of the Mississippi first, then east. I've only included those which appear on the web page, leaving off some that are known to be open but not yet listed.
Tesla Supercharger # of states/locations/stalls as of 1/30/2014: 27/73/470
Arizona
Flagstaff 4
Holbrook 4
Kingman 6
Quartzsite 8
Total: 4/22
California
Atascadero 8
Barstow 4
Buellton 8
Corning 6
Folsom 4
Fremont 8
Gilroy 10
Harris Rch. 7
Hawthorne 6
Mt. Shasta 4
Tejon Rch. 6
Vacaville 8
Total: 12/79
Colorado
Glenwood Springs 6
Grand Junction 6
Silverthorne 8
Total: 3/20
New Mexico
Farmington 4
Gallup 4
Total: 2/8
Oregon
Detroit Lake 6
Grant's Pass 4
Springfield 8
Woodburn 8
Total: 4/26
South Dakota
Mitchell 6
Murdo 4
Rapid City 4
Total: 3/14
Utah
Blanding 4
Moab 4
Total: 2/8
Washington
Burlington 8
Centralia 10
Ellensburg 5
Total: 3/23
Wyoming
Cheyenne 4
Lusk 4
Total: 2/8
Connecticut
Darien N/S 8
Milford N/S 4
Total: 2/12
Delaware
Newark 4
Total: 1/4
Florida
Fort Myers 8
Port Orange 6
Port St. Lucie 8
St. Augustine 6
Total: 4/28
Georgia
Savannah 6
Total: 1/6
Illinois
Highland Park 4
Normal 4
Rockford 6
Total: 3/14
Indiana
Angola 6
Mishawaka 6
Total: 2/12
Maryland
Bethesda 2
Hagerstown 6
Total: 1/6
Michigan
St. Joseph 8
Total: 1/8
Minnesota
Albert Lea 4
Worthington 6
Total: 2/10
North Carolina
Burlington 8
Lumberton 4
Rocky Mount 8
Total: 3/20
New York
JFK Int. 4
Syosset 4
Total: 2/8
Ohio
Macedonia 6
Maumee 6
Total: 2/12
Pennsylvania
Somerset 6
Total: 1/6
Rhode Island
East Greenwich 8
Total: 1/8
South Carolina
Santee 6
Total: 1/6
Texas
Columbus 6
Corsicana 6
Huntsville 6
San Marcos 5
Waco 8
Total: 5/31
Virginia
Glen Allen 8
Total: 1/8
Wisconsin
Eau Claire 6
La Crosse 6
Madison 3
Mauston 6
Total: 3/15
Edit: Per the 'Tesla Supercharger Confirmed' topic in the TMC forum as well as photos, corrected # of stalls at Hawthorne from 4 (as shown on Tesla's SC page) to 6, and also updated the Ca. and absolute totals from 12/77 to 12/79, and from 460 to 462.
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