JeremyW
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Ironically, Kia has been running one or two Souls on a southern California loop, hitting qc's every day. However, there aren't any ABB units in so cal besides ones being installed at Kia dealerships now.
There are a handful of ABB Terra 53 CHAdeMO / Combo stations at eVgo locations already - some have been in for at least a month or two now. It appears that eVgo will get one of these installed next to all the Nissan QC stations they've already got.JeremyW said:However, there aren't any ABB units in so cal besides ones being installed at Kia dealerships now.
Woah!Berlino said:Careful with the Soul EV and CHAdeMO.
From what one can gather in Norway, some models of CHAdeMO stop working after being visited by a SOUL EV.
Only a dozen of so SOUL EVs have been shipped to Canada, but this problem has cropped up as well. The bad part is that, unlike Kia Norway, Kia Canada isn't notifying anyone. The good part is that technicians were able to repair a damaged station within hours in Canada. I think the only impacted model is in use in California is the ABB one. Ironically, didn't Kia dealerships go with ABB?
http://www.elbil.no/nyheter/ladestasjoner/3402-kia-soul-eiere-bor-ta-pause-fra-hurtiglading
Edit: Here's the Google translate link: http://translate.google.ca/translat...eiere-bor-ta-pause-fra-hurtiglading&sandbox=1
pkulak said:Pretty good info on the battery:
http://youtu.be/AtJ9GoYUPyU" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Looks like they really focused on degradation. Seems like they managed to get energy density and safety in the same package. Very impressive.
lorenfb said:pkulak said:Pretty good info on the battery:
http://youtu.be/AtJ9GoYUPyU" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Looks like they really focused on degradation. Seems like they managed to get energy density and safety in the same package. Very impressive.
Again, they had three years to reverse engineer the Leaf and you'd thing the end result would be more significant.
Please explain...pkulak said:200 Wh/kg that can still be air cooled without exploding is a big damn deal.
ILETRIC said:Please explain...pkulak said:200 Wh/kg that can still be air cooled without exploding is a big damn deal.
pkulak said:It can also, apparently, handle charging rates over 3C, which bests the Tesla's 1.5C and Nissan's 2C.
ILETRIC said:Please explain...pkulak said:200 Wh/kg that can still be air cooled without exploding is a big damn deal.
...Had this car been launched three years ago, it would have been easily class-competitive with the Nissan Leaf. But the world of the EV has moved on rapidly
...As it stands, the Soul EV, as competent as it is, is neither the best to drive, nor the best value.
Kia Soul EV
Price £24,995 (after government grant); 0-60mph 10.8sec; Top speed 90mph; Range 132 miles; CO2 0g/km (local); Kerb weight 1588kg; Engine AC synchronous electric motor; Power 109bhp between 2730-8000rpm; Torque 210lb ft between 0-2730rpm; Gearbox Single-speed automatic
Given the UK pricing of the Soul and its rivals, I'd sort of agree, although real world range/price is the key value for most people considering a BEV.edatoakrun said:Autocar decidedly cool in it's review:...Had this car been launched three years ago, it would have been easily class-competitive with the Nissan Leaf. But the world of the EV has moved on rapidly
...As it stands, the Soul EV, as competent as it is, is neither the best to drive, nor the best value.
Kia Soul EV
Price £24,995 (after government grant); 0-60mph 10.8sec; Top speed 90mph; Range 132 miles; CO2 0g/km (local); Kerb weight 1588kg; Engine AC synchronous electric motor; Power 109bhp between 2730-8000rpm; Torque 210lb ft between 0-2730rpm; Gearbox Single-speed automatic
http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-review/kia/soul/first-drives/kia-soul-ev-uk-first-drive-review" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Or maybe, since we know that the NEDC is wrong and wildly optimistic, you could just look at the EPA city ranges of the LEAF and Soul EV, 92 and 103.6:edatoakrun said:Most disappointing to me, is that the reported NEDC range only exceeds that of the '14-'15 LEAF by a bit over 6% (132/124), as compared to the ~11% higher range over the LEAF (93/84) the US EPA gives the Soul.
Because I do mostly low speed driving (with large ascents and descents) My LEAF seems to closely track NEDC range (109 miles for new 2011-12 LEAFs) and I was expecting that the lower NEDC average speed would reduce the aero disadvantage of the Soul, and result in a greater proportionate range increase on that test cycle, not a lesser one.
Seems like there must be some other (relative to LEAF) inefficiency in the Soul, beyond just the ~100 lbs of extra weight, and boxy profile.
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