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cwerdna said:
BTW, I've seen people quote their electricity rate and one thing irks me is what I posted at http://www.mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic.php?p=352021#p352021" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; w/minor edits:
And, others quote rates by conveniently (?) leaving off random components of the rates (e.g. transmission, delivery charge, nuclear decommissioning, etc.), rather than going by the total. Sometimes, this leads to head scratchers and not believing what the person posted at all. (I've seen some CA rates for quoted by some folks here on MNL and a few other boards that seem TGTBT. And sometimes, when the TGTBT rates are questioned, there's no response.)

When I say that I pay about 15¢/kWh I was talking about the total bill divided by the total kWh. And yes, I'm averaging that over a year.

I can't imagine paying 35¢/kWh, that's outrageous.
 
truav8r said:
cwerdna said:
BTW, I've seen people quote their electricity rate and one thing irks me is what I posted at http://www.mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic.php?p=352021#p352021" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; w/minor edits:
And, others quote rates by conveniently (?) leaving off random components of the rates (e.g. transmission, delivery charge, nuclear decommissioning, etc.), rather than going by the total. Sometimes, this leads to head scratchers and not believing what the person posted at all. (I've seen some CA rates for quoted by some folks here on MNL and a few other boards that seem TGTBT. And sometimes, when the TGTBT rates are questioned, there's no response.)

When I say that I pay about 15¢/kWh I was talking about the total bill divided by the total kWh. And yes, I'm averaging that over a year.

I can't imagine paying 35¢/kWh, that's outrageous.
Some have argued that averaging isn’t right and that only computing the marginal cost is correct (the additional cost of adding that EV, which might mean being pushed into higher rate tiers). I will write more later tonight and compute 2k1toaster's costs. His electricity usage would be MUCHO expensive in PG&E-land.

edit: 2k1 has VERY cheap electricity. For that bill, that would be considered "winter" by PG&E. My "winter" baseline is 10.9 kWh/day. I'm in area X, code B of http://www.pge.com/myhome/customerservice/financialassistance/medicalbaseline/understand/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;. So, for a 32 day billing period, your baseline is 348.8 kWh, for which you'd pay the cheapest rate of $0.15293/kWh.

Basically, your costs for each of those tiers would be approx:
tier 1: $54.34
tier 2: $18.43
tier 3: $64.57
tier 4 (or 5, doesn't matter): $516.65

Your electric bill would be approximately $653 instead of $238.33.

Your nat gas also looks dirt cheap too. I've not looked into really before but it looks like for Feb 2014, the rates are at the top of http://www.pge.com/tariffs/GRF.SHTML#RATEFINDER" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;, specifically http://www.pge.com/tariffs/GRF0214.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;. My schedule is G1 and I'm in area X, so my daily baseline is 2.02 therms/day. Per http://www.eia.gov/tools/faqs/faq.cfm?id=45&t=8" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;, 1 ccf is 1.025 therms, so you used ~376 therms.

So, your total residential service charge for tier 1 (baseline) is $73.60 (at $1.13861/therm). For the excess, it's billed at $1.45634/therm, so it's $453.45 for your excess. Total nat gas bill would be $527.05.

Now do you see why many of us have such ire against PG&E (along w/the CPUC) and call them names like Pacific Gouge & Extort and why another one calls them "rape plans"?

I wish I didn't have to do the manual math as PG&E had a rate calculator for E-1 at
http://www.pge.com/en/myhome/myaccount/charges/index.page" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; (copy at https://web.archive.org/web/20130112080252/http://www.pge.com/en/myhome/myaccount/charges/index.page" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;) but they broke it and never fixed it. I emailed them about it long ago. No effect.
 
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Boourns said:
Google search reveals:

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http://www.zazzle.com/ev+bumperstickers" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
 
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