Dyno1
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New to Electric and looking to buy a Leaf

Hello,

I am new to the electric car scene and I am looking to buy a Leaf because it falls into my price range and driving range. I am looking for a Leaf between 2014-2016 and have many questions after reading information online and trying to decipher it. From what I understand the “ Lizard pack “ batteries started to be installed in 2014 is that correct ? Also I have read that’s the best battery Nissan made . Also the 2016 came with the 30kwh battery which has more range but degrades quicker than the 24kwh lizard pack. Am I better to buy a 24kwh or 30kwh? I have found both with full 12 bars . I know the 30kwh would still be under warranty , while the 24kwh would not . Any information would be helpful, as there is a lot of info out there and I want to make sure I buy the correct battery . Is there a way by looking at the vehicle to tell which battery it has in it ? I have found a 30kwh car for the same price as a 24kwh with both showing 12 bars. Any thoughts on buying a rebuilt Leaf, I have come across a few of those also . Thank you
LeftieBiker
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Re: New to Electric and looking to buy a Leaf

Please read my used Leaf buying guide, linked below:

viewtopic.php?f=27&t=26662&p=538030
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Dyno1
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Re: New to Electric and looking to buy a Leaf

Thank you for the link, that’s great information you provided. So from what I read , the lizard packs were installed starting in 2015 and not 2014? How were the batteries in 2014 ?
Dyno1
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Re: New to Electric and looking to buy a Leaf

Thanks for the link , it’s great information. So did the lizard pack only become available from 2015 on for the 24kwh batteries . If yes , how were the batteries in 2014?
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Re: New to Electric and looking to buy a Leaf

The batteries used from April (with a handful of exceptions) of 2013 through 2014 are good. I call that generation the "Wolf Pack." They are not as resistant to hotter climates as the Lizard pack, and they degrade a little faster - again, especially in warmer climates.
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Re: New to Electric and looking to buy a Leaf

I don't know what your tax situation is, but just keep in mind that if you do qualify for the $7500 FED credit, and if you also qualify for any state, local, or electric company rebates, a new could be almost as cheap as used.

There is also a good chance of a used EV tax credit coming starting January 1st, $2000 or $2500. That bill is in its final stages now, maybe passed within a week.
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Dyno1
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Re: New to Electric and looking to buy a Leaf

Where I am in Canada they did have a scrap it program but doesn’t look like they will have it next year. So I found 2 leafs both 2016, one has the 24kwh battery and is a rebuilt with full 12 bars and the other is a 30kwh no accidents , shows 11 bars but the price difference about $5000. Even though the 30kwh is down one bar and is more expensive, would I be better going that route . I guess it would also still be under warranty , is had 69,000kms ( about 43000 miles).
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Re: New to Electric and looking to buy a Leaf

one has the 24kwh battery and is a rebuilt with full 12 bars and the other is a 30kwh no accidents

What do you mean by "rebuilt"? Are you talking about the battery?
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Re: New to Electric and looking to buy a Leaf

Which province are you in in Canada. Depending on the province there are 5000 to 8000 dollar rebates at point of sale.

Leaf batteries in Canada tend to suffer less from heat issues for obvious reasons. But if buying used make sure you check to see if the car originally came from the US. That is extremely common with used leafs in Canada.
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Dyno1
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Re: New to Electric and looking to buy a Leaf

The car itself is rebuilt status not the battery . I am BC so it only gets hot here in the summer for a few months. Found a couple of 2017 leafs SV , little more expensive but wondering if I should go that route . Year newer and one more year of battery warranty

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