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Re: EV Project/Blink Installs

Tue Apr 12, 2011 11:30 pm

Wasn't The Lodge at Torrey Pines in San Diego one of the first on the list to get a public Blink installed? I haven't heard anything about it in awhile...

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Re: EV Project/Blink Installs

Wed Apr 13, 2011 9:38 am

KeiJidosha wrote:
thankyouOB wrote:In three, certainly six months, you have a news story. It is getting close.
What does that mean? ECOtality gets 3-6 more months before they are in default on the contract? And what is getting close? A GAO audit?

Where is the map of EV Project's public charging sites? What does the public get for $235 million dollars?
I was making a judgment about when this would be a news story. It is not laudable but also not unusual for contractors to fall behind their schedule. I do think EcoT needs to do some repair work here on their roll out, as they are behind the schedule that is shown on the slide posted above.
But I dont think any paper or tv outlet will think it is a story at this point.
You can take that view as accurate or not. I have the credentials to back it up.
Whether DOE would be concerned about them being, according to that slide, behind schedule by 3 to 5 months, I don't know. I would hope so.
That said, I cant think of any major infrastructure project or defense dept equipment that came in on time, except for the freeway repairs after the last major CA quake.
As to the insults to me personally by that other poster, and the use of near profanity, you are who you are. it reflects more on you than me.

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Re: EV Project/Blink Installs

Wed Apr 13, 2011 10:02 am

thankyouOB wrote:
KeiJidosha wrote:
thankyouOB wrote:In three, certainly six months, you have a news story. It is getting close.
What does that mean? ECOtality gets 3-6 more months before they are in default on the contract? And what is getting close? A GAO audit?

Where is the map of EV Project's public charging sites? What does the public get for $235 million dollars?
I was making a judgment about when this would be a news story. It is not laudable but also not unusual for contractors to fall behind their schedule. I do think EcoT needs to do some repair work here on their roll out, as they are behind the schedule that is shown on the slide posted above.
But I dont think any paper or tv outlet will think it is a story at this point.
You can take that view as accurate or not. I have the credentials to back it up.
Whether DOE would be concerned about them being, according to that slide, behind schedule by 3 to 5 months, I don't know. I would hope so.
That said, I cant think of any major infrastructure project or defense dept equipment that came in on time, except for the freeway repairs after the last major CA quake.
As to the insults to me personally by that other poster, and the use of near profanity, you are who you are. it reflects more on you than me.
As opposed to your "professionalism"...
thankyouOB wrote:ridiculous conclusion lacking any factual support about what happened.
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Re: EV Project/Blink Installs

Wed Apr 13, 2011 1:03 pm

thankyouOB wrote:I was making a judgment about when this would be a news story. It is not laudable but also not unusual for contractors to fall behind their schedule. I do think EcoT needs to do some repair work here on their roll out, as they are behind the schedule that is shown on the slide posted above.
On 3-6 more months before it’s a story, I agree. It is really only an issue for new LEAF owners delivered so far. And current delivery delay will push the story back further. But once you get thousands of new LEAF owners looking for public charging, it will be unavoidable.

As to project delays, project management has milestones. If they are having problems getting site owners to sign up (my personal bet), then they should just say so and adjust the schedule. My guess is the matching entry cost is too steep to sell their business model to site owners in this economy. If true, the DoE will have to reduce (halve?) the number of public chargers. Or re-think “free” public charging model, shifting to a pay model to entice site owners to sign up. Either choice affects my EV buying decision.

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Re: EV Project/Blink Installs

Thu Apr 14, 2011 10:32 am

Randy wrote:Wasn't The Lodge at Torrey Pines in San Diego one of the first on the list to get a public Blink installed? I haven't heard anything about it in awhile...
Randy--you're right on the money. Right as I entered the self-park gate, which is free during the day I found myself a Blink! The spot is unmarked and right next to a handicap spot. The Blink unit had the same firmware as I had .3A and the UI was completely open. There is a physical Ethernet connection but the Blink didn’t have an IP.

The Blink was last charged by someone on 4/1/2011 and pulled “0 kWh”. I’m thinking this was an installer test. In addition I bet you this date wasn’t a coincidence. I plugged in and it indeed charged just like home.

Just for fun I drove the garage looking for more and found 2 right above the first one in the valet section. Didn’t check these for firmware and/or IP addresses.

Well I’m happy I found the first blink install, but bummed that the firmware was the residential version. I think the reason Ecotality isn’t deploying the commercial EVSEs is that they don’t have their commercial firmware ready yet. Attached are a few pictures of the install.
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Re: EV Project/Blink Installs

Thu Apr 14, 2011 11:26 am

syntaxerror wrote:
Randy wrote:Wasn't The Lodge at Torrey Pines in San Diego one of the first on the list to get a public Blink installed? I haven't heard anything about it in awhile...
Randy--you're right on the money. Right as I entered the self-park gate, which is free during the day I found myself a Blink! I plugged in and it indeed charged just like home.
This is good news!

Randy – how did you hear about this installation? Where is the “List” that The Lodge at Torrey Pines is first on?

syntaxerror – does “Just like home” mean you needed a Blink RFID tag to start charging?

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Re: EV Project/Blink Installs

Thu Apr 14, 2011 11:31 am

KeiJidosha wrote:syntaxerror – does “Just like home” mean you needed a Blink RFID tag to start charging?
Has Blink even sent out any RFID tags, yet? I requested one a few weeks back, but nothing has come so far.
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Re: EV Project/Blink Installs

Thu Apr 14, 2011 11:42 am

Behold! San Diego public EV Project install #1!

Without so much as a press release from ECOtality, too. Odd.

Does having residential software open them up to more hijinks and tampering? Could someone use the regular menu to reprogram the thing into a confusing state for visitors? (Timer engaged, IP address wrong, etc.)

Has anyone received the RFID from Blink? (not here)

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Re: EV Project/Blink Installs

Thu Apr 14, 2011 12:07 pm

davewill wrote:
KeiJidosha wrote:syntaxerror – does “Just like home” mean you needed a Blink RFID tag to start charging?
Has Blink even sent out any RFID tags, yet? I requested one a few weeks back, but nothing has come so far.
Still pending here...
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Re: EV Project/Blink Installs

Thu Apr 14, 2011 12:29 pm

I got my information from a North County Times article that was published back in March and had quotes from Adrienne Lovejoy and Andy Hoskinson from the local ECOtality office (guess I should have posted the link below a little sooner to calm the masses clamoring for public charging stations :) ). They also list some of the locations where we'll be seeing some of the first Blinks...Looks like Stone Brewery in Escondido will also be getting them soon or might have them, as well as Coaster stations, Pomerado Health, etc.

http://www.nctimes.com/news/local/sdcou ... a225f.html

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