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Nfuzzy

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Doh! First taste of winter in my Leaf. No in between here either. We go from 70F one day to 13F on both ends of my commute today. Range wasn't impacted too bad, which I was feeling quite pleased about, hadn't slid at all on the snowy icy roads, until I went to make a right hand turn into a parking lot and slid straight ahead into the curb. I was going 10 or less, not really sure, but it was enough to get both wheels up over the curb. Backed off and drove home no problem and everything seems fine other than some scratches on the undercarriage. On the bright side both wheels hit straight on so I'm optimistic the car will be fine. We'll see once things thaw out and I can drive full speed again.
 
I guess my question if there is one... Did anyone else have trouble adjusting to driving a leaf in winter? From everything I have read here most people seem to think the leaf handles as good or better than other front wheel drive cars? I have never had an accident even this minor before and maybe it was just a case of bad luck hitting that random sheet ice, maybe it was the abs braking which I am not used to, or maybe I've gotten to used to one pedal driving in B mode.
 
My father used to say "Driving on ice is easy.... as long as you don't want to change speed or direction" The basic reality is that you have to have sufficient friction with the road to make the turn. The Leaf is a heavy little car even if it doesn't seem like it most days. While I haven't yet driven in winter weather, I fully expect it to drive with the inertia more like my van than the Hyundai it replaced. Hopefully I can avoid any 'surprises' but stuff happens no matter how careful you are.

As to your hitting the curb - I would suggest giving serious consideration to an alignment check. IF you were turning your front wheels would have been pointed somewhere other than straight when you hit that curb which I have to imagine wouldn't be good. Sure, you may have wacked both wheels the same, but that may put them both out of line with the rear wheels.
 
Yeah, that's why I referenced waiting until things thaw out as I should be able to feel alignment issues if the car pulls weird right? I hadn't even turned the wheel yet, as soon as I hit the brakes I could tell things were wrong and it didn't slow me at all before I hit the curb, wheels straight on. I came from a 99 maxima which I assume is heavier, maybe I am wrong.

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Huh, what do you know, leaf is a couple hundred pounds heavier than maxima.
 
Yep, those batteries are heavy.

I've had no trouble with my leaf in the snow. But I put on a set of Blizzaks for the winter. I have no problem with a good set of winter tires.
 
Steering a FWD car on a slippery surface when it wants to go straight is so counter-intuitive it's hard to manage it, but you have to apply power (moderately) to get it to turn in cases like this. Unless of course there was zero traction, in which case it wouldn't have mattered...
 
Yup, the Leaf handles fine in winter. The only adjustment I had to make was to not press the pedal too hard. All of that instant power an torque makes the wheels spin. Otherwise its like any other FWD car of similar size and clearance. Also, I dont use 'winter' tires. I am sure they would help though.
 
We're at 7400 ft elevation with a very hilly community of narrow streets so get lots of opportunity to test the LEAFs in winter conditions. Some notes:

1) While the LEAF is terrific compared to other front wheel drive cars it still is a front wheel drive car. We add snow tires to one of our LEAFs for extra traction for braking and acceleration, especially up hills. In snow tires the LEAF pretty much drives nicely on any road that has 4" or less of snow accumulated. The range penalty with snow tires is about 10%, which is really noticeable on top of the cold weather range penalty. Which is why only one of our two LEAFs has snow tires - the other has regular all-season tires and keeps maximum range but isn't drive on days with the worst road conditions.

2) Eco mode is our default driving mode (our LEAFs are pre-2013 so don't have B mode) and this is important when on slippery surfaces since the regeneration keeps the speed down, especially down steep slopes. Of course, you lose that advantage when charging to 100%. OTOH, drive mode is really helpful pushing uphill through unplowed snow drifts, especially with snow tires.

3) Remember that the LEAF has the ability to turn traction control off - not all cars have this option and it is extremely helpful if you do get stuck. With traction control on, if one drive wheel has no traction at all the system tries to divert all power to the wheel with no traction - so you just stay in one place with that wheel spinning even if the other wheel is on a solid surface. If you ever get stuck in a snow drift try turning traction control off as one of the first options to getting unstuck.
 
The range penalty with snow tires is about 10%, which is really noticeable on top of the cold weather range penalty. Which is why only one of our two LEAFs has snow tires - the other has regular all-season tires and keeps maximum range but isn't drive on days with the worst road conditions.

Try hard compound studd-able snow tires (with no studs) instead of the soft compound ones, if you want the most range and a bit more grip. They aren't as good on ice as soft tires, but my range drop is very small and they are better than all-seasons.
 
Random collection of my LEAF winter videos, mostly dashcam. It does OK in the snow, just like any other heavy front wheel drive car.My tip- if you drive in the snow more than just a few times, invest in a set of 4 snow tires. You really won't regret it, and it doesn't cost you anything extra in the long term since you're just spreading the wear across two sets of tires.

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