TimeHorse
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Looking up the latest specs of the Leviton Evr-Green units, I notice that although the 160 Unit should be available before the end of the year, the 320 will not until Q1 2011. So you have a choice if you're going with Leviton (there's still Coulomb. ClipperCreek and perhaps a few others that can do 6.6kW EVSEs, all be it with a J1772 chord upgrade, but I'll ignore those for the moment).
So, since the tax credit will expire on 31 Dec 2010, what would you do? Hope for 4 hour charging and face the fact you'll get no tax credit or just buy a 160 Evr-Green now and wait until the 6.6kW charger LEAF upgrade becomes available before upgrading to the 320 (but installing #6 gauge wiring so you only need to modify the receptacle from NEMA 6-20P to 6-50P when replacing the EVSE -- assuming the 160 can't plug into a NEMA 6-50P already, which it should)?
Or, do you just hope for an 11kW charger upgrade for the LEAF and a 480 Evr-Green that still uses NEMA 6-50P but draws 48A instead of just 32A and charge in a mere 2 hours.
Informal poll, anyone?
And yes, I know a lot of you are just saying bugger-it and going to stick with the portable 110V/15A (12A load) EVSE from Nissan. Feel free to cast that vote too!
So I think it comes down to this:
Assuming a "mile" is the distance you travel under EPA LA4 / UDDS specification, under which the 24 kWh battery is estimated to achieve 100 miles.
Option 1: 11 minutes of charging per mi: Free (Nissan 110V/12A provided EVSE)
Option 2: 5 1/2 minutes of charging per mi: Free in Europe (Nissan 220V/12A provided EVSE)
Option 3: 4 minutes of charging per mi: Use Federal EVSE Tax Credit and buy Evr-Green 160 or Aerovironment.
Option 4: 2 minutes of charging per mi: Hold out for the 6.6kW charger upgrade for the LEAF and the Evr-Green 320, which Mark Perry has said is a likely upgrade if demand is there.
Option 4: 1 minute 20 seconds charging per mi: Keep dreaming about Nissan offering an 10.5kW charger upgrade and searching for a true 220V/50A EVSE.
Option 5: 4.5 seconds charging per mi: Only use Level III charging stations to charge your LEAF and watch the battery deteriorate at an alarming rate.
I think that about covers it, unless you also consider:
Option 4.5: 45 seconds charging per mi: Hack your Nissan to use a Tesla charger and get one of Tesla's 90A ClipperCreek charging stations.
So, since the tax credit will expire on 31 Dec 2010, what would you do? Hope for 4 hour charging and face the fact you'll get no tax credit or just buy a 160 Evr-Green now and wait until the 6.6kW charger LEAF upgrade becomes available before upgrading to the 320 (but installing #6 gauge wiring so you only need to modify the receptacle from NEMA 6-20P to 6-50P when replacing the EVSE -- assuming the 160 can't plug into a NEMA 6-50P already, which it should)?
Or, do you just hope for an 11kW charger upgrade for the LEAF and a 480 Evr-Green that still uses NEMA 6-50P but draws 48A instead of just 32A and charge in a mere 2 hours.
Informal poll, anyone?
And yes, I know a lot of you are just saying bugger-it and going to stick with the portable 110V/15A (12A load) EVSE from Nissan. Feel free to cast that vote too!
So I think it comes down to this:
Assuming a "mile" is the distance you travel under EPA LA4 / UDDS specification, under which the 24 kWh battery is estimated to achieve 100 miles.
Option 1: 11 minutes of charging per mi: Free (Nissan 110V/12A provided EVSE)
Option 2: 5 1/2 minutes of charging per mi: Free in Europe (Nissan 220V/12A provided EVSE)
Option 3: 4 minutes of charging per mi: Use Federal EVSE Tax Credit and buy Evr-Green 160 or Aerovironment.
Option 4: 2 minutes of charging per mi: Hold out for the 6.6kW charger upgrade for the LEAF and the Evr-Green 320, which Mark Perry has said is a likely upgrade if demand is there.
Option 4: 1 minute 20 seconds charging per mi: Keep dreaming about Nissan offering an 10.5kW charger upgrade and searching for a true 220V/50A EVSE.
Option 5: 4.5 seconds charging per mi: Only use Level III charging stations to charge your LEAF and watch the battery deteriorate at an alarming rate.
I think that about covers it, unless you also consider:
Option 4.5: 45 seconds charging per mi: Hack your Nissan to use a Tesla charger and get one of Tesla's 90A ClipperCreek charging stations.