Smidge204 said:I guess when you try to confront some people on their dogma their brains just shut down.
AndyH said:Isn't the unemployment system - FICA - an insurance program that all contribute to? And social security - also insurance?
Thanks for this - my intent was to list them, not suggest they were the same.Yodrak said:FICA is not the unemployment system. FICA is the Social Security and Medicare systems.
The unemployment compensation system is administered by the federal government at the hightest level, but each state finances and runs its own system. In some states the entire funding comes from employers, in some states both employers and employees contribute.
Yes, it's very much the same as insurance - everyone (through their employer) pays into the fund, then those who need are paid from the fund.
AndyH said:Isn't the unemployment system - FICA - an insurance program that all contribute to? And social security - also insurance?
FINAL VOTE RESULTS FOR ROLL CALL 606
(Republicans in roman; Democrats in italic; Independents underlined) [sorry - lost the formatting.]
H R 2560 RECORDED VOTE 19-Jul-2011 8:23 PM
QUESTION: On Passage
BILL TITLE: Cut, Cap, and Balance Act
AYES NOES PRES NV
REPUBLICAN 229 9 1
DEMOCRATIC 5 181 7
INDEPENDENT
TOTALS 234 190 8
---- AYES 234 ---
Adams
Aderholt
Akin
Alexander
Amash
Austria
Bachus
Barletta
Bartlett
Barton (TX)
Bass (NH)
Benishek
Berg
Biggert
Bilbray
Bilirakis
Bishop (UT)
Black
Blackburn
Bonner
Bono Mack
Boren
Boustany
Brady (TX)
Brooks
Buchanan
Bucshon
Buerkle
Burgess
Burton (IN)
Calvert
Camp
Campbell
Cantor
Capito
Carter
Cassidy
Chabot
Chaffetz
Coble
Coffman (CO)
Cole
Conaway
Cooper
Cravaack
Crawford
Crenshaw
Culberson
Davis (KY)
Denham
Dent
Diaz-Balart
Dold
Dreier
Duffy
Duncan (SC)
Duncan (TN)
Ellmers
Emerson
Farenthold
Fincher
Fitzpatrick
Flake
Fleischmann
Fleming
Flores
Forbes
Fortenberry
Foxx
Franks (AZ)
Frelinghuysen
Gallegly
Gardner
Garrett
Gerlach
Gibbs
Gibson
Gingrey (GA)
Gohmert
Goodlatte
Gosar
Gowdy
Granger
Graves (GA)
Graves (MO)
Griffin (AR)
Grimm
Guinta
Guthrie
Hall
Hanna
Harper
Harris
Hartzler
Hastings (WA)
Hayworth
Heck
Hensarling
Herger
Herrera Beutler
Huelskamp
Huizenga (MI)
Hultgren
Hunter
Hurt
Issa
Jenkins
Johnson (IL)
Johnson (OH)
Johnson, Sam
Jordan
Kelly
King (IA)
King (NY)
Kingston
Kinzinger (IL)
Kline
Labrador
Lamborn
Lance
Landry
Lankford
Latham
LaTourette
Latta
Lewis (CA)
LoBiondo
Long
Lucas
Luetkemeyer
Lummis
Lungren, Daniel E.
Manzullo
Marchant
Marino
Matheson
McCarthy (CA)
McCaul
McClintock
McCotter
McHenry
McIntyre
McKeon
McKinley
McMorris Rodgers
Meehan
Mica
Miller (FL)
Miller (MI)
Miller, Gary
Mulvaney
Murphy (PA)
Myrick
Neugebauer
Noem
Nugent
Nunes
Nunnelee
Olson
Palazzo
Paulsen
Pearce
Pence
Petri
Pitts
Platts
Poe (TX)
Pompeo
Posey
Price (GA)
Quayle
Reed
Rehberg
Reichert
Renacci
Ribble
Rigell
Rivera
Roby
Roe (TN)
Rogers (AL)
Rogers (KY)
Rogers (MI)
Rokita
Rooney
Ros-Lehtinen
Roskam
Ross (FL)
Royce
Runyan
Ryan (WI)
Scalise
Schilling
Schmidt
Schock
Schweikert
Scott (SC)
Scott, Austin
Sensenbrenner
Sessions
Shimkus
Shuler
Shuster
Simpson
Smith (NE)
Smith (NJ)
Smith (TX)
Southerland
Stearns
Stivers
Stutzman
Sullivan
Terry
Thompson (PA)
Thornberry
Tiberi
Tipton
Turner
Upton
Walberg
Walden
Walsh (IL)
Webster
West
Westmoreland
Whitfield
Wilson (SC)
Wittman
Wolf
Womack
Woodall
Yoder
Young (FL)
Young (IN)
---- NOES 190 ---
Ackerman
Altmire
Andrews
Baca
Bachmann
Baldwin
Barrow
Bass (CA)
Becerra
Berkley
Berman
Bishop (GA)
Bishop (NY)
Boswell
Brady (PA)
Braley (IA)
Broun (GA)
Brown (FL)
Butterfield
Canseco
Capps
Cardoza
Carnahan
Carney
Carson (IN)
Chandler
Chu
Cicilline
Clarke (MI)
Clarke (NY)
Clay
Cleaver
Clyburn
Cohen
Connolly (VA)
Conyers
Costa
Costello
Courtney
Critz
Crowley
Cuellar
Cummings
Davis (CA)
Davis (IL)
DeFazio
DeGette
DeLauro
DesJarlais
Deutch
Dicks
Dingell
Doggett
Donnelly (IN)
Doyle
Edwards
Eshoo
Farr
Fattah
Filner
Frank (MA)
Fudge
Garamendi
Gonzalez
Green, Al
Green, Gene
Griffith (VA)
Grijalva
Gutierrez
Hahn
Hanabusa
Hastings (FL)
Heinrich
Higgins
Himes
Hinojosa
Hirono
Hochul
Holden
Holt
Honda
Hoyer
Inslee
Israel
Jackson (IL)
Jackson Lee (TX)
Johnson (GA)
Johnson, E. B.
Jones
Kaptur
Keating
Kildee
Kind
Kissell
Kucinich
Langevin
Larsen (WA)
Larson (CT)
Lee (CA)
Levin
Lewis (GA)
Lipinski
Loebsack
Lofgren, Zoe
Lowey
Luján
Lynch
Mack
Maloney
Markey
Matsui
McCarthy (NY)
McCollum
McDermott
McGovern
McNerney
Meeks
Michaud
Miller (NC)
Miller, George
Moore
Moran
Murphy (CT)
Nadler
Napolitano
Neal
Olver
Owens
Pallone
Pascrell
Pastor (AZ)
Paul
Payne
Pelosi
Perlmutter
Peters
Peterson
Pingree (ME)
Polis
Price (NC)
Quigley
Rahall
Rangel
Reyes
Richardson
Richmond
Rohrabacher
Ross (AR)
Rothman (NJ)
Roybal-Allard
Ruppersberger
Rush
Ryan (OH)
Sánchez, Linda T.
Sanchez, Loretta
Sarbanes
Schakowsky
Schiff
Schrader
Schwartz
Scott (VA)
Scott, David
Serrano
Sewell
Sherman
Sires
Slaughter
Smith (WA)
Speier
Stark
Sutton
Thompson (CA)
Thompson (MS)
Tierney
Tonko
Towns
Tsongas
Van Hollen
Velázquez
Visclosky
Walz (MN)
Wasserman Schultz
Waters
Watt
Waxman
Welch
Wilson (FL)
Woolsey
Wu
Yarmuth
---- NOT VOTING 8 ---
Blumenauer
Capuano
Castor (FL)
Ellison
Engel
Giffords
Hinchey
Young (AK)
Right now, elephants from a Missouri circus are helping clear heavy debris from the tornado. Which means, when it comes to helping the residents of Joplin Missouri, actual elephants are more useful to them than the GOP.
AndyH said:Here are the results for today's House vote on HR 2560 "Cut, Cap, and Balance."
Sorry - I thought she voted on the debt ceiling bill. It was great to see her back!LEAFfan said:AndyH said:Here are the results for today's House vote on HR 2560 "Cut, Cap, and Balance."
Andy, I'm surprised that you didn't know Gabby Giffords DID vote and she voted in the affirmative.
http://huff.to/qUQL0q" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;Michele Bachmann Warns Hezbollah Could Build 'Missile Sites' In Cuba
http://motherjones.com/blue-marble/2011/09/tea-partiers-light-rail-national-security-risk" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;Light Rail an Invitation to Al Qaeda
AndyH said:Bill Mahr on a number of topics. Some language - caution at work.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06R-qTXfVYE[/youtube]
"On this side of the debate: every scientist in the world. On the other: Mr. Potato head."
I am SO SORRY! Caffeine abuse! :shock:TRONZ said:AndyH said:Bill Mahr on a number of topics. Some language - caution at work.
"On this side of the debate: every scientist in the world. On the other: Mr. Potato head."
Dude! :lol: :lol: :lol: you made Mountain Dew come out my nose!
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