To be more precise, those of us who live in coastal parts (Bay or Ocean) of Marin, San Mateo, Alameda and Contra Costa counties as well as all of San Francisco live in a very temperate climate - we've got Ma Nature's heat sink to keep our temps moderate. Santa Clara county, as well as Alameda and Contra Costa counties east of the hills, plus parts of Napa and Solano counties experience much larger temperature extremes.Nubo said:padamson1 said:3. Portland, OR is more "ideal" than the SF Bay area.
It's probably a combination of #1 & #2. However given the number of friends moving up from the Bay area recently, I am inclined to believe it's actually #3.;-)
The "SF Bay area" has a rather wide range of climates. I can't find a convenient temperature map but you can get an idea from the solar radiation map -- keeping in mind the significant temperature moderation effect of the prevailing ocean breezes near the open ocean. I find that people in the blue-to-yellow zone on this map (south of Golden Gate Bridge) tend to think of the "Bay Area" as strictly the blue-to-yellow zone, south of the Golden Gate bridge.
DesertDenizen said:
DesertDenizen said:theaveng said:I don't see it?spooka said:Let's see how long it takes you to spot the deceit in this Leaf ad... (SPOILER - Related to the amount of SOC remaining.)
There are maybe 8 SOC bars showing, with GOM indicating 132 miles left until depleted. In my dreams.
That link only says range of "over 100 miles". The dash showing 132 miles is no longer clickable, and almost impossible to read. Still, not many people can get "over 100 miles", you basically have to drive like an old lady. They should be advertising the EPA range; it should be illegal to advertise anything higher.spooka said:BINGO! They are advertising 132 miles of range at a dealership here in Phoenix. Today, right now! Even after everything that has been going on for the last 6 months. I'd say "Can you believe it?" but I know better.
http://www.peorianissan.com/leaf-zero-down-offer.htm
DesertDenizen said:
The Arizona lemon law sets out the following amounts that a manufacturer must payMrIanB said:When they say Nissan will be doing a buy back due to lemon law, what exactly is Nissan paying?
The lemon law does not cover lessees.Are they paying for the months left on a lease?
The lemon law does not cover lessees.Are they giving any down payment money on that same lease back?
It is a standard formula as mentioned above.What are they paying if the car is being purchased? The payoff? What happens if there is any equity or inequity for those that are purchasing?
Please consider using WeatherSpark to get more detailed annual temperature profiles for your location. The granularity of that data is constrained by the number of weather stations, but it should be pretty decent, for the Bay Area at least. If you can parse the percentage of time spent in each temperature band, you could use the model derived from Arrhenius Law in this spreadsheet to calculate the effective temperature and aging coefficient relative to 70 F constant temperature.GRA said:Nubo said:padamson1 said:3. Portland, OR is more "ideal" than the SF Bay area.
It's probably a combination of #1 & #2. However given the number of friends moving up from the Bay area recently, I am inclined to believe it's actually #3.;-)
The "SF Bay area" has a rather wide range of climates. I can't find a convenient temperature map but you can get an idea from the solar radiation map -- keeping in mind the significant temperature moderation effect of the prevailing ocean breezes near the open ocean. I find that people in the blue-to-yellow zone on this map (south of Golden Gate Bridge) tend to think of the "Bay Area" as strictly the blue-to-yellow zone, south of the Golden Gate bridge.
To be more precise, those of us who live in coastal parts (Bay or Ocean) of Marin, San Mateo, Alameda and Contra Costa counties as well as all of San Francisco live in a very temperate climate - we've got Ma Nature's heat sink to keep our temps moderate. Santa Clara county, as well as Alameda and Contra Costa counties east of the hills, plus parts of Napa and Solano counties experience much larger temperature extremes.
Looks like just 11 capacity bars showing to me.DesertDenizen said:
surfingslovak said:Please consider using WeatherSpark to get more detailed annual temperature profiles for your location. The granularity of that data is constrained by the number of weather stations, but it should be pretty decent, for the Bay Area at least. If you can parse the percentage of time spent in each temperature band, you could use the model derived from Arrhenius Law in this spreadsheet to calculate the effective temperature and aging coefficient relative to 70 F constant temperature.GRA said:Nubo said:The "SF Bay area" has a rather wide range of climates. I can't find a convenient temperature map but you can get an idea from the solar radiation map -- keeping in mind the significant temperature moderation effect of the prevailing ocean breezes near the open ocean. I find that people in the blue-to-yellow zone on this map (south of Golden Gate Bridge) tend to think of the "Bay Area" as strictly the blue-to-yellow zone, south of the Golden Gate bridge.
To be more precise, those of us who live in coastal parts (Bay or Ocean) of Marin, San Mateo, Alameda and Contra Costa counties as well as all of San Francisco live in a very temperate climate - we've got Ma Nature's heat sink to keep our temps moderate. Santa Clara county, as well as Alameda and Contra Costa counties east of the hills, plus parts of Napa and Solano counties experience much larger temperature extremes.
Thanks for the data, this is great. However, based on what we know and some of the work that has been done to model this better, the extremes are not very interesting, except when they are outside of the allowed operational range of the battery. What is important however, is the amount of time spent in particular temperature bands over the course of the year. This allows you to compute the speed of aging relative to 70 F and determine the overall aging factor for the climate in question.GRA said:Here's the summary for my little burg along the eastern shore of the bay: "Over the course of a year, the temperature typically varies from 42°F to 75°F and is rarely below 36°F or above 85°F."
And here's what it is about 10-15 miles due east, east of the hills and not on the bay:
"Over the course of a year, the temperature typically varies from 38°F to 87°F and is rarely below 30°F or above 98°F."
These don't represent the extremes.
And 3,995 posts. Incredible.jspearman said:Hooray for page 400!
TickTock said::lol: I admit, I drank the Kool-Aid before I even got my Leaf. My enthusiams has been dampened, for sure, but I am still a fan.opossum said:So... Nissan served Kool-Aid at your meeting, eh? :lol:TickTock said:Given proper disclosure I think it is still a great choice for many Phoenix valley residents.
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