Valdemar
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^^^ Sounds like you are right on target for 80% remaining after 5 years, so no surprises here.
91040 said:Down three capacity bars as of today, 5/28 after 36.5 months and 73,205 miles. Just below 47Ahr with 71%SOH.
C'est la vie.
So you think 71% after 3 years is OK? Would the general public?mwalsh said:You should file a class action suit for a replacement battery cost!91040 said:Down three capacity bars as of today, 5/28 after 36.5 months and 73,205 miles. Just below 47Ahr with 71%SOH. C'est la vie.
scottf200 said:So you think 71% after 3 years is OK? Would the general public?
I'm pretty sure mwalsh doesn't think it's okay! Personally, I think Nissan should offer to sell replacement battery packs to high-mileage 2011/2012 owners at a price below their cost. A "free" replacement under warranty would be nice, but the fact is that folks like 91040 and myself have gotten a lot of use out of our original, defective packs, and batteries are a "wear" item.scottf200 said:So you think 71% after 3 years is OK? Would the general public?mwalsh said:You should file a class action suit for a replacement battery cost!91040 said:Down three capacity bars as of today, 5/28 after 36.5 months and 73,205 miles. Just below 47Ahr with 71%SOH. C'est la vie.
abasile said:Personally, I think Nissan should offer to sell replacement battery packs to high-mileage 2011/2012 owners at a price below their cost. A "free" replacement under warranty would be nice, but the fact is that folks like 91040 and myself have gotten a lot of use out of our original, defective packs, and batteries are a "wear" item.
electricfuture said:Down to 9 bars with only 35 months and 36,700 miles posted this incorrectly in the "newbies". Will I be the 1st warranty replacement? Anyone else this close?
abasile said:I'm pretty sure mwalsh doesn't think it's okay! Personally, I think Nissan should offer to sell replacement battery packs to high-mileage 2011/2012 owners at a price below their cost. A "free" replacement under warranty would be nice, but the fact is that folks like 91040 and myself have gotten a lot of use out of our original, defective packs, and batteries are a "wear" item.
This would depend on whether the replacement battery is better than the original. The problem is that it'll take years for us to know for sure if newer batteries are truly more heat tolerant, given the present credibility gap. In any case, more range could be a huge selling point.Valdemar said:The question remains how much are we willing to pay? I'm not buying for sure given 25%-30% degradation in SoCal after 3 years being "the norm", I'll drive the car until I no longer can and then dispose of it.
Good point. Given Nissan's "credibility" on this issue I would value a new battery as though it were going to perform exactly like the old one - with a useful life of 3-4 years - in evaluating whether to replace my battery or to replace my Leaf with a Volt. Unless... Nissan put their money behind their credibility and sold the replacement battery with a true warranty that paid pro-rata for batteries that degraded faster than their claims. And if that warranty was based on (more nearly) objectively verifiable numbers like Amp-hrs rather than on vague unquantifiable numbers like battery bars.abasile said:This would depend on whether the replacement battery is better than the original. The problem is that it'll take years for us to know for sure if newer batteries are truly more heat tolerant, given the present credibility gap. In any case, more range could be a huge selling point.Valdemar said:The question remains how much are we willing to pay? I'm not buying for sure given 25%-30% degradation in SoCal after 3 years being "the norm", I'll drive the car until I no longer can and then dispose of it.
I thought he was being sarcastic. Hard to tell with such a terse comment. There are people here at both ends of the spectrum (this is normal and expected and I'll buy a new one -to- I expect a free battery every 3-4 years as an early adopter).abasile said:I'm pretty sure mwalsh doesn't think it's okay! Personally, I think Nissan should offer to sell replacement battery packs to high-mileage 2011/2012 owners at a price below their cost. A "free" replacement under warranty would be nice, but the fact is that folks like 91040 and myself have gotten a lot of use out of our original, defective packs, and batteries are a "wear" item.scottf200 said:So you think 71% after 3 years is OK? Would the general public?mwalsh said:You should file a class action suit for a replacement battery cost!
EVDrive said:The oinly thing missing from the Rav4 EV is a Chademo QC port.
Well, if 25-30% is the norm for degradation at 3 years in Southern California, then my conservative charging/driving strategy (17.7% loss, 3 years ownership next week) may be making a significant difference. I am doing better than the Battery Aging Model by 0.5%. The Battery Aging Model projects 6.6 years total until I hit 70% capacity remaining.Valdemar said:The question remains how much are we willing to pay? I'm not buying for sure given 25%-30% degradation in SoCal after 3 years being "the norm", I'll drive the car until I no longer can and then dispose of it.
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