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PostPosted: Wed Oct 19, 2011 7:04 pm 
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How much will my Electric Bill increase charging the Leaf? My cost for electricity is 9.2¢ per kWh¢. I plan on driving the car approx 1120 miles per month. We move into our new house next month. We had a 50 Amp, 240 Volt outlet installed in our garage. We plan on using evseupgrade.com for our charging unit.

How much will my Electric Bill increase charging the Leaf per month?

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 19, 2011 7:12 pm 
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Hard to say exactly, as it depends on the conditions, however, if you average 4 miles/KW, that works out to:

1120 / 4 = 280KW

take into account about %85 efficient charging @ 240VAC, so multiply by 1.15, = 322KW consumed

at .092 per KW * 322KW, that adds up to $29.62 / month

of course you will probably average higher miles / KW, depending on your driving style, speed, use of heat/AC, weather conditions, elevation changes, traffic conditions, many variables affect the KWs consumped/mile.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 19, 2011 7:44 pm 
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If you're with PGE like me, good luck. I am on time-of-use 12 to 6 pm and even though I charge at night I'm getting charged the highest tier - 50 cents per kW about 40-50 kW. The 9 cent tier disappears really fast and you move on to 24 cents juice. My electric bill is about 80 bucks less than I would pay for gas doing 2500 miles per month. You have to pay the piper somehow.

But there is hope. DOW Powerhouse solar shingles are rolling out this fall/winter. I will save about 350-400 bucks a month paying no electricity whatsoever. I hate the look of solar panels. This is what I was waiting for about a decade now. I am shootiong for 6-7 kW system and it's going to go for about 16000 bucks. Will be paid for in 3 years, past that - free ride - literally.

Check it out.

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jopeters41 wrote:
How much will my Electric Bill increase charging the Leaf? My cost for electricity is 9.2¢ per kWh¢.
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How much will my Electric Bill increase charging the Leaf per month?

What electric utility are on you on? What rate schedule are you on? What are their tiers, if any or is it always 9.2 cents per kWh, regardless of how much you use? (unlikely) What's your typical monthly usage now and what are some of your highest months?

Without this, the info we provide more than likely will be wrong.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 19, 2011 8:09 pm 
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I do a mix of freeway and secondary road travel. Not much in city traffic. I try to drive 'green', but often the temptation to show off a bit is just too much. I pay close to 11¢ a kWh (no tiered rates) and figure a bit less than 3¢ a mile for fuel. I figure the Toyota van I sold cost me almost 17¢ a mile for fuel. I pay a bit more for insurance, but the van was 10 years old, and I don't change oil.

I am a rather senior citizen, so I do not expect to recoup the extra cost of the EV before my demise or when they wont renew my license, but, darn it, I just wanted an EV. And I love it. :P

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 19, 2011 9:07 pm 
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about $30 a month. any other questions? actually, need details here. where do you live? what kind of commute do you plan to do? etc.

i can say its doubtful you will get much more than 4 miles/kw from the wall @1120 miles that would be more than 280 Kw and you "could" get less than 3 miles /Kw from the wall but if you try you should be able to be in that range so that would be 373 Kw at 9.2 cents per that is 34.34 to 25.76.

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I do a mix of freeway and secondary road travel. Not much in city traffic. I try to drive 'green', but often the temptation to show off a bit is just too much. I pay close to 11¢ a kWh (no tiered rates) and figure a bit less than 3¢ a mile for fuel. I figure the Toyota van I sold cost me almost 17¢ a mile for fuel. I pay a bit more for insurance, but the van was 10 years old, and I don't change oil.

I am a rather senior citizen, so I do not expect to recoup the extra cost of the EV before my demise or when they wont renew my license, but, darn it, I just wanted an EV. And I love it. :P

Bill

Damn, I wish we had a "like" button on these posts, I'd have clicked it over and over for this one! You go, Bill!

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A lot less than your gasoline bill goes down ;)

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 19, 2011 9:14 pm 
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Damn, I wish we had a "like" button on these posts, I'd have clicked it over and over for this one! You go, Bill!


A certain Prius forum, (okay, PriusChat), has a "thank this user for their post", and a "remove thanks" button as well. Perhaps wxyyz could get that going here, then you could "thank" a user for a post.

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mitch672 wrote:
lonndoggie wrote:
Damn, I wish we had a "like" button on these posts, I'd have clicked it over and over for this one! You go, Bill!


A certain Prius forum, (okay, PriusChat), has a "thank this user for their post", and a "remove thanks" button as well. Perhaps wxyyz could get that going here, then you could "thank" a user for a post.

Yep, I've asked for this at viewtopic.php?f=17&t=4838.

It's also sometimes helpful for finding useful posts. I've sometimes checked to see which ones I've thanked in order to fish for useful posts that I can't remember anymore.

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