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PostPosted: Sat Aug 06, 2011 11:28 pm 
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wishboneash wrote:
Could have easily beaten the EPA 73 mile range today - covered 68 miles with 9 bars effectively used up. With a full charge and using up a couple of more bars would have made 80 miles comfortably.

Total Miles Driven : 68
Date : Aug 6, 2011
Leaf End Condition : Started with 11 bars and ended with 2 bars left (14 miles est range)
Route / Terrain : Pleasanton -> via 680/24 -> Tilden Park (Inspiration point, ~1000ft -> Berkeley dwntn -> via 80/580-> Pleasanton. Lots of elevation changes on Wildcat canyon Rd and Dublin grade on the return
Speed : range of speeds from 25mph to 60mph
Weather : temps 18-25C, no climate control used
Miles/kWh : did not measure


when would you expect turtle to kick-in, with the last est 14 miles? Trying to understand your best guess range before turtle?


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 07, 2011 7:53 am 
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mdh wrote:
wishboneash wrote:
Could have easily beaten the EPA 73 mile range today - covered 68 miles with 9 bars effectively used up. With a full charge and using up a couple of more bars would have made 80 miles comfortably.

Total Miles Driven : 68
Date : Aug 6, 2011
Leaf End Condition : Started with 11 bars and ended with 2 bars left (14 miles est range)
Route / Terrain : Pleasanton -> via 680/24 -> Tilden Park (Inspiration point, ~1000ft -> Berkeley dwntn -> via 80/580-> Pleasanton. Lots of elevation changes on Wildcat canyon Rd and Dublin grade on the return
Speed : range of speeds from 25mph to 60mph
Weather : temps 18-25C, no climate control used
Miles/kWh : did not measure


when would you expect turtle to kick-in, with the last est 14 miles? Trying to understand your best guess range before turtle?


Based on the range-speed-bar graph in another thread, I think another 14-20 miles might have been possible (depending on the road/speed conditions). I regret not having tried to drive around more near my home to see how far I could have gone. The turtle mode would occur after all the bars including the red ones were used up. So optimistically I could have made 90 miles if I started with a full charge and pessimistically 80 miles. A less demanding route with less freeway driving and elevation changes could have seen an even longer range. IMHO, for peace of mind for distances over 75 miles (60mph max) one should try and get a top up charge. If the route & conditions are well known, I think one could push this limit higher without re-charge. Other factors that go into this calculation would be battery condition and age.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 11, 2011 3:14 pm 
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I drive my leaf easy, live in a good moderate climate (just south of Portland OR). I'm trying to figure out how to get my photograph of "114 miles" (projected) on this message. How do you attach a photo to these messages? I've tried the "Img" above, but no success.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 11, 2011 3:23 pm 
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happyamp1 wrote:
I drive my leaf easy, live in a good moderate climate (just south of Portland OR). I'm trying to figure out how to get my photograph of "114 miles" (projected) on this message. How do you attach a photo to these messages? I've tried the "Img" above, but no success.


You can't (as far as I know) attach/upload a photo directly to the forum site. You need to get the photo on the internet elsewhere (one way to do that if you don't have a page/site of your own to host the content is to use the free site tinypic.com, or imageshack.us), then you post the link to the location of the photo in the "Img" tag, and the image will render as part of your post.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 15, 2011 2:57 am 
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Delivery Date: 30 Jul 2011
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My experience this weekend wasn't that great. I estimate I am getting 68 Miles per charge. However I was going at highway speeds with 3 adults and child riding. The extra weight does have an impact for sure as well as going at 70Mph.

Read all about it at my blog.

http://jpwhitenissanleaf.com/2011/08/14/first-experience-with-range-anxiety/

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 15, 2011 7:11 am 
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JPWhite wrote:
I estimate I am getting 68 Miles per charge.... going at 70Mph.



That's about right at 70.

Now do the same trip at 60, and see if you don't get something like 81 miles.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 2:46 pm 
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I guess I beat it.

Total Miles Driven : 90 Started with 100%
Date : 8/30
Leaf End Condition : Low battery, no bars and ---. Carwings reported 1 mile left.
Route / Terrain : roundtrip Hillsboro to Mcminville, OR. Plus some around town
Speed : 70% @ 65, 30% @30
Weather : 70F, almost no climate used
Miles/KWh per Leaf : 4.5m/kWh


Rangeometer initially was very high, but by middle of trip - was conservatively low. Which is good - if rangeometer thinks you'll make it - there is even buffer left.
But I read some one getting 120 miles per charge - is my car crimpled??

here is carwings log that i've done after morning charge

# tot used regen dist econ
4 0.2kWh 0.3kWh 0.1kWh 1.6miles 9.6miles/kWh 2lbs
5 5.9kWh 7.8kWh 1.9kWh 33.4miles 5.6miles/kWh 22lbs
6 1.7kWh 2.5kWh 0.8kWh 13.3miles 7.9miles/kWh 8lbs
7 7.7kWh 9.2kWh 1.5kWh 39.5miles 5.1miles/kWh 26lbs

Total used 15.5 kWh
Total from batt 19.8
Total regen 4.3


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 9:54 am 
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Hey All: So decided to take the Leaf up to visit friends in Santa Rosa. We knew we could get about 4.5 hours of trickle charge while there. Total trip distance -- house to house -- 110.9 miles. We live in Berkeley . . . so called Santa Rosa Nissan to see if I could drop in for an L2 charge, just in case, and they were very accommodating -- told me I could drop in anytime before 7pm (on Saturday). Arrived at friends with 3 bars and 22 miles to go and plugged in for trickle. Checked Carwings on my blackberry (twice! Wife about killed me :P ) and saw we were charging, but too slowly. ................snip
At THIS junction, I HAVE to ask you why in the world you haven't yet invested in the quick 220 appliance, where you plug into the two different legs of 120v so you can get 240 volts out:
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And then have your L1 charge cable modded to run on 240!
You wouldn't have had to bother with all the scary scary. You could have filled up enough to do the whole drive. Meah ... maybe that's just me.


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 10:25 am 
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Just out of curiosity, I checked with my insurer (State Farm) and was told that it makes no difference to them whatsoever. I'd be covered regardless.

GaslessInSeattle wrote:
Has anyone found out if using non-certified charging systems will void homeowners insurance in case of a fire?

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 10:54 am 
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And then have your L1 charge cable modded to run on 240!
You wouldn't have had to bother with all the scary scary. You could have filled up enough to do the whole drive. Meah ... maybe that's just me.


With the quick220 gizmo. My understanding is that both 120v legs must not be on a GFCI circuit. Is that true? If so how many circuits are available 'outside' a building or in a campground that are NOT GFCI?

Thought the device sounds perfect until I read about the GFCI restriction. Interested in your 'real world' experience with the device and finding suitable circuits.

JP

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