thankyouOB
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they just itch to put someone behind them.
Well this particular item galls me, because I was behind a Prius who was obviously hypermiling (taking a ramp at a sedate 30mph) (speed sign said 55). I was stuck behind this guy for quite awhile (single lane marge point), until I finally was able to take the next exit to the airport. If he had driven the 55 on the sign, everything would have been good, but his slow pace added about 5 minutes to my trip.Stoaty said:If you read his quote, he is giving other drivers the message "You aren't going to get there any faster if I speed up." He is not preventing other drivers from getting to their destination sooner, the traffic is doing that job.
Now that you mention it, my carpool partner and I see this all the time. Someone will pass me only to get stuck behind the car or truck I was following. Or they will pass and then slow down to the speed I was doing (on cruise) or even slower. I call it "gotta be in front syndrome".thankyouOB said:they just itch to put someone behind them.
TimLee said:When will ICE drivers learn this??? :?: :?: :?:Stoaty said:If you read his quote, he is giving other drivers the message "You aren't going to get there any faster if I speed up." He is not preventing other drivers from getting to their destination sooner, the traffic is doing that job.
In the past 12 months, and less than 7,000 miles of driving, there must have been at least 40 occasions in which some idiot driving an ICE raced around me on the right (occasionally on the left) as I was properly slowing down for a traffic light that was going to be be red for at least 1 minute. All 40 of these idiots accomplished NOTHING.
When will people learn :?: :?: :?: :?: :?:
Nubo said:I'm convinced some drivers can't think more than 5 seconds ahead.
Yes, it is an empirical result IIRC. It is likely that below 12 mph the longer time for the systems loss outweighs any tiny gains in drag reduction or motor/drivetrain efficiency (if any).DougWantsALeaf said:Does the 12MPH MAX efficiency figure include taking into consideration the 200watts/hr the car uses for its computer systems?
You would have to been behind him for a full six miles to lose 5 minutes.theaveng said:Well this particular item galls me, because I was behind a Prius who was obviously hypermiling (taking a ramp at a sedate 30mph) (speed sign said 55). I was stuck behind this guy for quite awhile (single lane marge point), until I finally was able to take the next exit to the airport. If he had driven the 55 on the sign, everything would have been good, but his slow pace added about 5 minutes to my trip.
theaveng said:Oh okay.
So the bottom line is that you Leaf drivers DO think it's okay to block people in single lane situations & thereby make them late for work or appointments.
Uh oh, I must be out of the norm. I don't do more than 25 mph, and we have a single lane freeway onramp that is 10 miles long. Most people behind me end up being at least 30 minutes late to work, one guy swore it was an hour.Nubo said:Yes, we're all about driving 30mph on mythical 7-mile-long freeway ramps to make people 5 minutes late for work. An absolute epidemic of this going on.
theaveng said:Well this particular item galls me, because I was behind a Prius who was obviously hypermiling (taking a ramp at a sedate 30mph) (speed sign said 55). I was stuck behind this guy for quite awhile (single lane marge point), until I finally was able to take the next exit to the airport. If he had driven the 55 on the sign, everything would have been good, but his slow pace added about 5 minutes to my trip.Stoaty said:If you read his quote, he is giving other drivers the message "You aren't going to get there any faster if I speed up." He is not preventing other drivers from getting to their destination sooner, the traffic is doing that job.
I have no objection to hypermiling when someone can pass you on a multilane highway, but highly object when it's a single lane situation, and you are slowing people trying to get to work, or appointments, and they can't afford to lose even five minutes. In my case the Prius dude rudely added five minutes by blocking my progress to the airport exit.
For the conditions the poster stated, on a one mile ramp, it would be around 55 seconds instead of 5 minutes.smkettner said:No. Just saying the delay usually seems longer than it really is.
I tend to assume very slow driving for an extended period is for another reason besides just saving fuel.
I give them the benefit of the doubt of nearly out of fuel, engine trouble, impared driver, just lost, or other mechanical trouble.
DaveinOlyWA said:this issue could be eliminated by not allowing single drivers access to the carpool lane. I drive under the speed limit most of the time and never impede anyone's ability to go anywhere but will still have people follow me tailgating for MILES and MILES. its weird. it is as if they must have the far right lane and I should get out of their way...
and it might be different there but here we get people driving 60 mph (the speed limit) in the HOV lanes all the time. we simply pass them and move on. there are a few places where the HOV lane veers off on its own so passing is not an option but those places are rare and for fairly short distances
It is the big question of what you are trying to accomplish with HOV lanes.thankyouOB said:what is the point of that? (getting our commuting LEAFs out of HOV lane?)
DaveinOlyWA said:here we get people driving 60 mph (the speed limit) in the HOV lanes all the time. we simply pass them and move on. there are a few places where the HOV lane veers off on its own so passing is not an option but those places are rare and for fairly short distances
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