What, specifically ? Certainly not cell discharge below 2.6V.lpickup said:They could be allowing a deeper discharge. They could have tweaked something to make the drivetrain more efficient.
And why would it not extend to the AWD or Tesla MR ?
What, specifically ? Certainly not cell discharge below 2.6V.lpickup said:They could be allowing a deeper discharge. They could have tweaked something to make the drivetrain more efficient.
I'm sure the SR point was already answered in the conference call or another place. It was stated that the battery is different. I googled but couldn't figure out the right keywords to drill down on this specific topic!dgpcolorado said:I wonder if the SR and SR partial premium models are software limited MR batteries? It would make manufacturing much easier and offer the option to open up the battery later for a fee (or when Tesla takes them back as trade-ins).
"Making" is not the thing - can they make in volume and be profitable ?theothertom said:Well...If BMW wanted to make a sparsely appointed 220 mile range EV for 35K, I think they could. But I don't think that's their business model. They're going to make a 400 mile range EV (X3, 4 series) with luxury appointments. Look at the price of a model 3 long range with all the bells and whistles. This would compare to a BMW, price wise.evnow said:I really doubt any of the German luxury car makers can make anything close to 3 in price - anytime soon. By "soon" I mean in next 5 years. But in those 5 years - Tesla will be further along with Y & Pickup and …. I'd be very worried if I was a BMW dealer now.
The 5 year old post was in response to what I had predicted - 5 years back. So makes sense to quote that, right ? That says nothing about Germans - just that Tesla would put out a 200+ mile range 3, instead of anything smaller like some were saying.palmermd said:Two things. You quoted a five year old post. The op was right BMW and other Germans did not put out anything to match that spec. But it also took Tesla 5 years to do it as well.
It'll be interesting to see the industry reaction over the next six months.
dgpcolorado said:I wonder if the SR and SR partial premium models are software limited MR batteries? It would make manufacturing much easier and offer the option to open up the battery later for a fee (or when Tesla takes them back as trade-ins).
I think you are right when it comes to the MR and SR difference. I still think it is possible that the SR and SR+ are the same battery, with the former being a software limited version of the latter. We will know soon once deliveries have been made.evnow said:dgpcolorado said:I wonder if the SR and SR partial premium models are software limited MR batteries? It would make manufacturing much easier and offer the option to open up the battery later for a fee (or when Tesla takes them back as trade-ins).
Speculation in TMC is that the new German machines can probably make blank modules and put them in the pack. So, they can easily make batteries of different sizes.
Well - we'll see soon enough.dgpcolorado said:I think you are right when it comes to the MR and SR difference. I still think it is possible that the SR and SR+ are the same battery, with the former being a software limited version of the latter. We will know soon once deliveries have been made.
Check the car weightsscottf200 said:I'm sure the SR point was already answered in the conference call or another place. It was stated that the battery is different. I googled but couldn't figure out the right keywords to drill down on this specific topic!dgpcolorado said:I wonder if the SR and SR partial premium models are software limited MR batteries? It would make manufacturing much easier and offer the option to open up the battery later for a fee (or when Tesla takes them back as trade-ins).
That is my read.golfcart said:Am I understanding the Tesla page correctly that you need to upgrade to the partial premium interior to get heated seats?
SageBrush said:That is my read.golfcart said:Am I understanding the Tesla page correctly that you need to upgrade to the partial premium interior to get heated seats?
The $2,000 strikes me as excellent value between the interior upgrades, faster car and 20 miles extra range.
Is there a silver option ? I have to admit, the color pricing scheme has gotten out of hand.golfcart said:SageBrush said:That is my read.golfcart said:Am I understanding the Tesla page correctly that you need to upgrade to the partial premium interior to get heated seats?
The $2,000 strikes me as excellent value between the interior upgrades, faster car and 20 miles extra range.
Yes, I agree that is the best value. Unfortunately that would bump it up to $39700 + tax with the silver paint.
SageBrush said:Is there a silver option ? I have to admit, the color pricing scheme has gotten out of hand.golfcart said:SageBrush said:That is my read.
The $2,000 strikes me as excellent value between the interior upgrades, faster car and 20 miles extra range.
Yes, I agree that is the best value. Unfortunately that would bump it up to $39700 + tax with the silver paint.
But then you get to spend that amount *again* in 8 years. And at least for the first 8 years you have a hobbled car that is only good for local duties.golfcart said:The more I look at the budget the more the 2018 SV fire sale looks like the way to go... It's enough range under warranty for 8 years and I don't have to spend $1500 to get a color I like.
SageBrush said:But then you get to spend that amount *again* in 8 years. And at least for the first 8 years you have a hobbled car that is only good for local duties.golfcart said:The more I look at the budget the more the 2018 SV fire sale looks like the way to go... It's enough range under warranty for 8 years and I don't have to spend $1500 to get a color I like.
I don't see the value.
golfcart said:SageBrush said:But then you get to spend that amount *again* in 8 years. And at least for the first 8 years you have a hobbled car that is only good for local duties.golfcart said:The more I look at the budget the more the 2018 SV fire sale looks like the way to go... It's enough range under warranty for 8 years and I don't have to spend $1500 to get a color I like.
I don't see the value.
It's half the price for that 8 years, that's the value. And there's no reason to believe I couldn't get 10+ out of the car it's not like I'll be at 8 bars the day the warranty expires.
I get your point I just think for my situation I could drive it for a decade then give it to the kid.
For the turn signal control, I'm guessing you had this problem: https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/psa-left-turn-signal-doesnt-reset-defective-steering-control-module.129414/.EVDRIVER said:If you have a good warranty, So far replaced on my 3 in 4 months:
Steering wheel
Turn signal control
Entire passenger seat (barely used)
Entire upper dash
Stay tuned,.
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