evnow
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Seems to be fairly easy to get Volts without a markup.
evnow said:There is no such thing as an all purpose car. If there was, we wouldn't have had so many models from each auto major.GeorgeParrott said:The Volt is fully functional as one's single car for all purposes; the Leaf is an around town commuter...period.
redLEAF said:EV dealers claiming tax rebate ?
http://rumors.automobilemag.com/ev-dealers-claiming-7500-tax-credit-gm-nissan-49855.html
I believe the Chicago area dealer (not identified) was Grossinger in Palatine (or perhaps Rockenbach in Gurnee?) ... in any case it's interesting to see and it made 'official' that new Volts can't be sold in IL yet (we all know that but perhaps an unsuspecting visitor to this Chevy dealer would not!)
My favorite quote from the article:Kataphn said:Article about dealing gouging with Volt in LA Times this morning, business section.
I would think the customer is still going to claim the tax credit. What is the worst that would happen? They get audited and owe back the tax credit? I wonder what the odds of that acutally happening is.GM's Peterson called the notion of dealers gaming the tax credit an "exaggerated claim" because no customers have complained.
Don't you have to supply the VIN? I would think an attempt to claim the credit on a used car would get detected pretty quick.Spies said:I would think the customer is still going to claim the tax credit. What is the worst that would happen? They get audited and owe back the tax credit? I wonder what the odds of that acutally happening is.
Perhaps, but I don't think it would stop someone from trying in hopes that it will get through unnoticed. Heck, someone even tried it with a Hummer.davewill said:Don't you have to supply the VIN? I would think an attempt to claim the credit on a used car would get detected pretty quick.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/02/03/ap/national/main7314846.shtmlFor example, some car owners tried to claim the $7,500 credit for their Hummer H3, Dodge Durango or Cadillac Escalade. Someone claimed it for a golf cart.
planet4ever said:(Of course, Volts don't even qualify for that one at the present.)
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redLEAF said:http://rumors.automobilemag.com/ev-dealers-claiming-7500-tax-credit-gm-nissan-49855.html
I believe the Chicago area dealer (not identified) was Grossinger in Palatine (or perhaps Rockenbach in Gurnee?) ... in any case it's interesting to see and it made 'official' that new Volts can't be sold in IL yet (we all know that but perhaps an unsuspecting visitor to this Chevy dealer would not!)
The National Legal and Policy Center is one of a number of groups which criticizes the Obama administration for a living. Funded in part by right-wing activist Richard Mellon Scaife, nearly all of its stories target Democrats in some fashion, and the Volt piece was part of the site's "union corruption update" series.
It is not obvious to me since the 2011 Volt is not eligible for the California rebate. Has this actually changed for the 2012 model? Her math is still wrong though since the Volt being a plug in hybrid the maximum California rebate it would be eligible for is $3,000 not $5,000.It will obviously still be eligible for all federal and state purchase incentives, placing the Volt as low as $27,495 in California.
Even more, since the CA Rebate Program is re-structuring in just a few days or weeks, that $3,000 figure will drop to $1,500 if I remember David's post correctly.Spies said:From the article:It is not obvious to me since the 2011 Volt is not eligible for the California rebate. Has this actually changed for the 2012 model? Her math is still wrong though since the Volt being a plug in hybrid the maximum California rebate it would be eligible for is $3,000 not $5,000.It will obviously still be eligible for all federal and state purchase incentives, placing the Volt as low as $27,495 in California.
Spies said:From the article:It is not obvious to me since the 2011 Volt is not eligible for the California rebate. Has this actually changed for the 2012 model? Her math is still wrong though since the Volt being a plug in hybrid the maximum California rebate it would be eligible for is $3,000 not $5,000.It will obviously still be eligible for all federal and state purchase incentives, placing the Volt as low as $27,495 in California.
" . . . . . . . at least one GM representative has reportedly admitted that the Volt's problem is soft demand, not low production. Speaking with the Daily Caller, GM's Director of Policy and Washington Communications, Greg Martin, said that (as paraphrased by the Daily Caller):
"Its underwhelming sales numbers have a lot to do with the fact that it's a new vehicle, there still is not an adequate infrastructure in place for the advanced battery, and the technology is only scalable to a certain point. That means that any GM-manufactured electric car will be a small car "with a technology that comes with a price." Not exactly the apple of the soccer mom's eye. . . . . . . ."
Note that the actual quote does not support the speculation ABG writer is making. A poor article by ABG - whats new ?hill said:Here's an interesting Volt read:
" . . . . . . . at least one GM representative has reportedly admitted that the Volt's problem is soft demand, not low production....
http://green.autoblog.com/2011/06/03/chevy-volt-sales-whats-going-on/
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