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No wonder I don't like it. Never seen it in sunlight :lol:thankyouOB said:the red is bootiful. it dazzles in the sunlight with flecks of gold.
just bootiful.
No wonder I don't like it. Never seen it in sunlight :lol:thankyouOB said:the red is bootiful. it dazzles in the sunlight with flecks of gold.
just bootiful.
cwerdna said:Yep. One problem for me w/red is that it stands out and attracts unwanted police attention. I can't really put my finger on the other reasons why I don't like it.
As for black, the primary reason for my dislike is because it's hard to keep clean/dirt stands out. Looks great when clean though but needs extra work it keep it from looking bad. A much lower importance reason why I don't like black is that they get hotter in the sun than lighter ones.
cwerdna said:Yep. One problem for me w/red is that it stands out and attracts unwanted police attention. I can't really put my finger on the other reasons why I don't like it.
Smart move. as I said yesterday, "I also think that at current prices, used LEAFs may be better values than new, if you don't desperately need any of the various improvements."supra410 said:I just picked up one identical to yours with 5900 miles for $17,500 + $450 shipping from southern cal to Oklahoma. ...Despite the few extra goodies in the 13. It just made sense for me to pass and find a nice 11...
supra410 said:I just picked up one identical to yours with 5900 miles for $17,500 + $450 shipping from southern cal to Oklahoma. It's unfortunate the values have dropped at such a rapid rate, but good for people like me who want an ev without sticker shock. I have looked at 13 s trims. The steel wheels and the lack of all the great options seemed to be my biggest turnoff. Also, I always buy cars. After the lease I was to purchase & my residual would not have been far from what the pre owned were going for. Despite the few extra goodies in the 13. It just made sense for me to pass and find a nice 11... As clean as yours looks. I don't think it's unreasonable.
Depends on where you live and what sort of roads you drive on:eclecticflower said:...As far as dirt goes, I've heard that excuse before and I don't buy it. When your car is dirty, it's dirty (wash it!). Yes, dirt will be more obvious on a very light or very dark car, but how well the color camouflages dirt shouldn't be the barometer for frequency of washing. JMHO.
At least during the colder winter months, my LEAF is almost perpetually dirty, worse than DGP's photo. This is pretty normal for many cars around here, many of which are not garaged.dgpcolorado said:If I had to wash my car every time I leave home it would get old quickly... I'm already washing it much more often than I did my other cars.
Yes, been there, done that!abasile said:...It's a bummer when you try hosing off the car in the morning and the water turns to ice before you can towel it off the car...
dgpcolorado said:Yes, been there, done that!abasile said:...It's a bummer when you try hosing off the car in the morning and the water turns to ice before you can towel it off the car...
I gave up washing my car at home—in Winter the yard hydrant is buried under snow and hauling the hose in and out of the garage is a nuisance, but if I don't drain it and store it inside it freezes. And water is very expensive here. So I use a self-serve carwash instead; the convenience is worth the cost. The main thing I am concerned with is washing the magnesium chloride off the car. If it's just dirt I don't care so much.
No, good idea though. However, I frequently use the rear window wiper "dry" to swipe the dust off the window so I can see through it better. That's life on a dirt road (when it isn't muddy).edatoakrun said:I just finished washing my LEAF.
I wash mine every 6 months, whether it needs it or not...
This time it really needed it. The snow patches and Mud puddles that have been on all my off-pavement driving since November all melted and dried up by a few weeks ago, and all the dust traps around the a rear hatch had filled up already.
Anyone else who lives off-pavement developed the habit of keeping a a Leaf blower handy in the Summer, to dust off their LEAF?
I agree that dirt by itself isn't much of an issue! Here the roads are "cindered" during the winter, i.e., sprinkled with volcanic cinder bits. Caltrans and San Bernardino County don't use salt, whether NaCl or MgCl2. So rust and other types of salt-related vehicle degradation are less of a concern.dgpcolorado said:The main thing I am concerned with is washing the magnesium chloride off the car. If it's just dirt I don't care so much.
Anyone know why some states use salt (whether Mg or Na), while states such as California use sand (oor cinders, in Abasile's case)? I've never understood the rationale behind using a substance on the roads that is highly corrosive to steel, when wet. I find it hard to believe that salt is any cheaper or more widely available than sand.abasile said:I agree that dirt by itself isn't much of an issue! Here the roads are "cindered" during the winter, i.e., sprinkled with volcanic cinder bits. Caltrans and San Bernardino County don't use salt, whether NaCl or MgCl2. So rust and other types of salt-related vehicle degradation are less of a concern.dgpcolorado said:The main thing I am concerned with is washing the magnesium chloride off the car. If it's just dirt I don't care so much.
That's a good question. Although I can't seem to find documentation stating this, I've heard that it's considered desirable for environmental reasons to avoid the use of salt on roads passing through Forest Service lands.GRA said:Anyone know why some states use salt (whether Mg or Na), while states such as California use sand (oor cinders, in Abasile's case)? I've never understood the rationale behind using a substance on the roads that is highly corrosive to steel, when wet. I find it hard to believe that salt is any cheaper or more widely available than sand.
GRA said:Anyone know why some states use salt (whether Mg or Na), while states such as California use sand (oor cinders, in Abasile's case)? I've never understood the rationale behind using a substance on the roads that is highly corrosive to steel, when wet. I find it hard to believe that salt is any cheaper or more widely available than sand.
Here sand is used on most roads (my tiny county, with its meager budget, uses coal fly ash because it is free; it makes for brutal dust clouds when bicycling after it dries out). But sand, usually decomposed granite in Colorado, is mixed with a bit of salt to keep it from freezing in large chunks when wet. It also is best stored under cover, which adds to the expense.GRA said:Anyone know why some states use salt (whether Mg or Na), while states such as California use sand (oor cinders, in Abasile's case)? I've never understood the rationale behind using a substance on the roads that is highly corrosive to steel, when wet. I find it hard to believe that salt is any cheaper or more widely available than sand.
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