ENIAC -
Sorry, I beg to differ, I WAS called a spy who has tried to spread misinformation, you can read TRONZ's post about it below and it's pretty clear what his meaning is. Hopefully most people on this forum are not operating under this paranoid delusion, though I've seen other posts that make me think TRONZ is not the only one who thinks this way.
Anyway, in answer to your question about battery capacity, I will certainly have it checked out at our 1,000-mile service coming up in a few weeks, but I don't think it's a capacity issue. You say you went 112 road miles in January, but were you on the highway at all during that time? It's the highway issue that makes a big difference on range. I am sure I could get 112 miles if I went on city streets and did constant stop-start motion with coasting.
My 50-mile estimate is based on my wife's current commute and the 80% recommended charge (so the range is obviously higher for 100%). She goes from Berkeley to Vallejo in the Bay Area every day -- that's a 43-mile total commute. Without a little extra juice in the morning before she leaves, the car will read 15 miles left after she comes home, and that's as close as we want to get it, there's no point in running to single digits. So that's why I say 50 highway miles is the recommended distance... this is not a crazy recommendation, and I am not the only one saying this. In fact, the very first person to get a Leaf delivered to him in the U.S., Oliver Chalouhi in the Bay Area, posted this exact same sentiment here:
http://nissan-leaf.net/2010/12/16/first-leaf-owner-olivier-chalouhi-gives-updates-on-vehicles-performance/
"Although Chalouhi loves his LEAF and he’s glad he bought it, he does not recommend the vehicle for individuals with a daily commute over 25 miles each way, this of course being at freeway speed. "
I think people need to realize that everyone's experience will not be the same for this vehicle. That means my observations about a 50-mile range on the highway at 80% are just as valid as the guy who gets 100 miles driving around town on streets.
Let's be a little more open to hearing about these different experiences, instead of assuming that someone else is wrong because he's having a different experience from you. When all 20,000 of these cars get on the road by the end of this year, I think the true range for highway commuters will be apparent.
Josh
ENIAC said:
barsad22 said:
Josh, no offense, but there's no need to lash out at TRONZ and the other members on the board. No one on the board called you a spy. Back on topic, I simply don't understand how a new LEAF owner would be satisfied with 50 mile range. That's not right. One day in Jan I put 112 miles on my LEAF. So when I read you are getting only 50, I'm shocked. Have you talked to your dealer about this issue? I asked this earlier in the thread and I'll asked it again, are you sure your battery pack is functioning properly?
Posted earlier by TRONZ:
Not trying to be a jerk or anything here but where did barsad22 buy his car and where is he driving it around? Did I miss something??? I mean, usually when I pick up the phone and someone starts asking me questions making provocative statements I ask "who am I speaking with"? I re-read some of the "interesting" and "conflicting" word choices in the OP and would really appreciate you providing at least your VIN# and dealer info here;
https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key ... 1I8B#gid=0
barsad22, your OP is written with alot of "spin" words for and against the LEAF. But lets be clear, "spin" is "spin" and the purpose of writing conflicting "spin", as you have, is to plant doubt and controversy for readers that don't know any better. Mission Accomplished, eh
. It would also seem you are eager to be the victim of Nissan, "warn" future LEAF buyers (first words of your OP) and claim to be attacked on this thread when everyone is just offering alot of great, thoughtful advice. Most very early adopters are more than happy to share there order/delivery info. Considering all the above, it is very strange that you do not!