DaveinOlyWA
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Re: 62kwh Leaf Plus Efficiency Posting

Fri May 07, 2021 7:56 am

Must be nice to have those long stretches of constant speed to test on. FYI; I have been looking at the GOM verses LEAF Spy and found some interesting "issues." *commenting on post in T3 thread*

On my relatively short commutes 27.9 or 28.0 RT for work, I was seeing what appears to be the GOM not rounding up.

dash/LS
4.6/4.67
4.7/4.73
4.5/4.58
4.8/4.84

I was participating in a trial at Fred Hutch, so tracked that and got a completely different reading over 126.3 miles

5.0/4.88

Haven't looked into why this happened but some data points; My commute is generally 60-70 in the morning, 65-75 in the evening 2/3rds freeway. It is a constant up and down. My higher speeds are simply playing the gravity game (BTW...it seems to be the rule of law in this area of I-5) so guessing the Seattle trip numbers have to do with what is likely a MUCH larger regen figure. I do check my regen values on my daily commute and see generally 2 miles (one way) with a rare 3. Morning trips see some congestion on 'incident free' days but rarely see any slow down in the evenings.
2011 SL; 44,598 mi, 87% SOH. 2013 S; 44,840 mi, 91% SOH. 2016 S30; 29,413 mi, 99% SOH. 2018 S; 25,185 mi, SOH 92.23%. 2019 S Plus; 25,047 mi, 92.12% SOH
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DougWantsALeaf
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Re: 62kwh Leaf Plus Efficiency Posting

Fri May 07, 2021 8:25 am

Fascinating that the largest discrepancy was on the longest run. .1 isn't that big of a difference, but mile rounding wouldn't explain it.
2019 S Plus (93.7% SOH) & 2019 SV Plus (91.6% SOH) Both Silver
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Max Miles on 13 Leaf: 120 miles
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DaveinOlyWA
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Re: 62kwh Leaf Plus Efficiency Posting

Fri May 07, 2021 8:48 am

DougWantsALeaf wrote:
Fri May 07, 2021 8:25 am
Fascinating that the largest discrepancy was on the longest run. .1 isn't that big of a difference, but mile rounding wouldn't explain it.
I chalk it up to traffic conditions. Will have to look at the logs but the Seattle trip was a constant speed up, slow down which means the regen value is HUGE. Guessing there is something going on when that is thrown into the mix. The work commutes are nearly regen free (freeway anyway) as I simply strive to "deadband" down the hills (zero power in or out)
2011 SL; 44,598 mi, 87% SOH. 2013 S; 44,840 mi, 91% SOH. 2016 S30; 29,413 mi, 99% SOH. 2018 S; 25,185 mi, SOH 92.23%. 2019 S Plus; 25,047 mi, 92.12% SOH
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Re: 62kwh Leaf Plus Efficiency Posting

Mon May 31, 2021 5:40 pm

Another month come and gone.

S+ 510 miles and 5.3 miles/kWh. It was 5.4 until this weekend when temps dropped to the 40s and I had a 70 mile trip on the freeway/fast highway. The kids did run AC a few days as well, so likely a tenth or two left on the table.

SV+ 475 miles and 4.8 miles/kWh.

We didn't have any long trips this month, so majority of the driving (75%) was local sub 50 mph driving.

The cars have been a pretty consistant .5 miles/kWh apart. May overall was fairly warm until the last 5 days when temps plummeted. They are coming back now, so June should be good efficiency wise, as it often is for the Leaf.

Also today ends my NCTC. I still have ql15 more days for my evgo $250 credit, but it was nice while it lasted. Now back to home charging and fully enjoying off peak electricity rates.
2019 S Plus (93.7% SOH) & 2019 SV Plus (91.6% SOH) Both Silver
2013 Leaf SV sold 2019 with 11 bars
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Max Miles on 13 Leaf: 120 miles
Max Miles on 19 SV+: 242 Highway miles @ 4.5 miles/kWh

DougWantsALeaf
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Re: 62kwh Leaf Plus Efficiency Posting

Wed Jun 30, 2021 7:22 pm

June is in the books.

SV+ 538 miles and 4.7 miles/kWh

S+ 840 miles and 5.2 miles/kWh the teenagers use the car to commute to work now, and don't see the sin in running the AC. A fair number of freeway miles this month.

The cars are still predictably .5 miles/kWh apart though though S+ sees more highway miles in that mix.

I finally have my abrp synced to the car via Leafspy, so hope to contribute some data going forward.
2019 S Plus (93.7% SOH) & 2019 SV Plus (91.6% SOH) Both Silver
2013 Leaf SV sold 2019 with 11 bars
100 Mile Club Member (Number 87)
Max Miles on 13 Leaf: 120 miles
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DougWantsALeaf
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Re: 62kwh Leaf Plus Efficiency Posting

Sat Jul 31, 2021 11:03 pm

July is come and gone
My daughter was in a car accident with the S+ this month so miles were reversed, and the SV+ saw more action than the S+. Everyone was fine (other driver at fault), but boy it doesn't take much of a hit to score 6,800 in damages. We had 2 trips to Wisconsin in the SV+ as a result, and while not as efficient, it did great.

SV+ 912 miles 4.3 miles/kWh
S+ 311 miles 5.2 miles/kWh ( out of commission for 2+ weeks)
2019 S Plus (93.7% SOH) & 2019 SV Plus (91.6% SOH) Both Silver
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Max Miles on 13 Leaf: 120 miles
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DougWantsALeaf
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Re: 62kwh Leaf Plus Efficiency Posting

Tue Aug 31, 2021 6:11 pm

Ok, August is in the books. Summer winding down sadly.

SV+ 529 miles 4.3 mile/kWh. Not very much highway, and lots of AC as August was hot.

S+ 746 miles and 5.0 miles/kWh this included 70mph freeway runs to/from Milwaukee.

I am starting to think that the ecopias are not as traction rich as before when new. When flooring it, the car tires will squak (ok squeak) all the way to 50mph. That doesn't happen in the SV+ with the Michelins.
2019 S Plus (93.7% SOH) & 2019 SV Plus (91.6% SOH) Both Silver
2013 Leaf SV sold 2019 with 11 bars
100 Mile Club Member (Number 87)
Max Miles on 13 Leaf: 120 miles
Max Miles on 19 SV+: 242 Highway miles @ 4.5 miles/kWh

GerryAZ
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Re: 62kwh Leaf Plus Efficiency Posting

Tue Aug 31, 2021 6:17 pm

The Michelins are probably slipping as much or more, just not making noise.
Gerry
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DaveinOlyWA
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Re: 62kwh Leaf Plus Efficiency Posting

Tue Aug 31, 2021 7:42 pm

DougWantsALeaf wrote:
Tue Aug 31, 2021 6:11 pm
Ok, August is in the books. Summer winding down sadly.

SV+ 529 miles 4.3 mile/kWh. Not very much highway, and lots of AC as August was hot.

S+ 746 miles and 5.0 miles/kWh this included 70mph freeway runs to/from Milwaukee.

I am starting to think that the ecopias are not as traction rich as before when new. When flooring it, the car tires will squak (ok squeak) all the way to 50mph. That doesn't happen in the SV+ with the Michelins.
Ecopias known for lowest rolling resistance which means less flex, less traction so yeah... they would spin easier.
2011 SL; 44,598 mi, 87% SOH. 2013 S; 44,840 mi, 91% SOH. 2016 S30; 29,413 mi, 99% SOH. 2018 S; 25,185 mi, SOH 92.23%. 2019 S Plus; 25,047 mi, 92.12% SOH
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Re: 62kwh Leaf Plus Efficiency Posting

Wed Sep 01, 2021 9:46 am

DougWantsALeaf wrote:
Tue Aug 31, 2021 6:11 pm

SV+ 529 miles 4.3 mile/kWh. Not very much highway, and lots of AC as August was hot.
Consistently averaging between 4.3 and 4.4 m/kWh on my SV+ for the last thousand miles. Mainly suburban commuting with limited highway with (of course Houston,Tx) A/C. 40 psi on the Michelins.
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