greenercar
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Hi all,
I've learned a lot from the forum over the last few weeks as I've been looking into buying a used Leaf, so thanks to everyone for that. I've looked at a lot of cars and have narrowed it down to two.
I'm looking for a 30kWh Leaf. I've read the caveats and info about these packs available here and elsewhere and am aware of the issues! I've been taking the cars I've looked at on long test drives and tested the trip computer's reported energy usage and distance vs. reported battery capacity compared to what LeafSpy reports. The car will easily meet our needs even when the battery has degraded to ~60%, which should be some time from now. I've been car-free for the past 4 years, but have found myself in a situation where I need a short-commute / city car, I've ruled out buying a fossil-fuel vehicle due to ethical considerations, and a used Leaf is affordable for me, so it seems like a great car for my purposes.
I am looking at these 2 cars, both no-accident, one-owner cars originally registered in the SF Bay Area and since imported to Canada:
2017 Leaf SV
12500 km
LeafSpy data:
94% SOH
74.75 AHr
80.77% Hx
131 QC 75 L1/L2
A 66.7 km test drive used 34% of the trip-computer reported charge level at an average of 7.7 km/kWh, which is within a percent or so of the expected value, if I've done the math right.
The other is a
2017 Leaf SV
42000 km
87.5% SOH
I don't have the other values from LeafSpy at the moment, but this one had around 2000 charge cycles, with the large majority being L1/L2.
This one is $1200 (Canadian) less than the lower-mileage one. The math also checked out on this car with a 50km test drive.
Both seem very clean and mechanically sound to me, and I'm having independent inspections done (the 42000 km car is in excellent condition, I'm getting the other inspected tomorrow).
It seems like the lower-mileage car is the way to go, assuming no problems found in the inspection. Unfortunately the NIssan dealership that is selling it seems a little scammy (the sales guy told me straightfaced that "importing the car to Canada voids the warranty so you won't have any protection if anything goes wrong, but we can sell you an extended warranty..."). And I'm a little worried about the high proportion of quick-charges. Would that set the battery up to degrade faster in the future? But it is a much newer car, and if I can count on the higher battery capacity it seems like it's worth it for the slightly higher price. The second car is from a specialist used-EV dealership that knows their stuff and has been straight with me (or as straight as I would expect car salesmen to ever be!)
Anything I've missed? Thanks in advance for your help!
I've learned a lot from the forum over the last few weeks as I've been looking into buying a used Leaf, so thanks to everyone for that. I've looked at a lot of cars and have narrowed it down to two.
I'm looking for a 30kWh Leaf. I've read the caveats and info about these packs available here and elsewhere and am aware of the issues! I've been taking the cars I've looked at on long test drives and tested the trip computer's reported energy usage and distance vs. reported battery capacity compared to what LeafSpy reports. The car will easily meet our needs even when the battery has degraded to ~60%, which should be some time from now. I've been car-free for the past 4 years, but have found myself in a situation where I need a short-commute / city car, I've ruled out buying a fossil-fuel vehicle due to ethical considerations, and a used Leaf is affordable for me, so it seems like a great car for my purposes.
I am looking at these 2 cars, both no-accident, one-owner cars originally registered in the SF Bay Area and since imported to Canada:
2017 Leaf SV
12500 km
LeafSpy data:
94% SOH
74.75 AHr
80.77% Hx
131 QC 75 L1/L2
A 66.7 km test drive used 34% of the trip-computer reported charge level at an average of 7.7 km/kWh, which is within a percent or so of the expected value, if I've done the math right.
The other is a
2017 Leaf SV
42000 km
87.5% SOH
I don't have the other values from LeafSpy at the moment, but this one had around 2000 charge cycles, with the large majority being L1/L2.
This one is $1200 (Canadian) less than the lower-mileage one. The math also checked out on this car with a 50km test drive.
Both seem very clean and mechanically sound to me, and I'm having independent inspections done (the 42000 km car is in excellent condition, I'm getting the other inspected tomorrow).
It seems like the lower-mileage car is the way to go, assuming no problems found in the inspection. Unfortunately the NIssan dealership that is selling it seems a little scammy (the sales guy told me straightfaced that "importing the car to Canada voids the warranty so you won't have any protection if anything goes wrong, but we can sell you an extended warranty..."). And I'm a little worried about the high proportion of quick-charges. Would that set the battery up to degrade faster in the future? But it is a much newer car, and if I can count on the higher battery capacity it seems like it's worth it for the slightly higher price. The second car is from a specialist used-EV dealership that knows their stuff and has been straight with me (or as straight as I would expect car salesmen to ever be!)
Anything I've missed? Thanks in advance for your help!