surfingslovak
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Move to Phoenix metro-area thread?
greengate said:mn4az said:Hello from Da Nort Woods (ie MN) where my parents are visiting from AZ and are very interested in my Leaf (and thus getting one themselves). However, they have one home in Phoenix and another in Flagstaff. I have checked Plugshare and there isn't a good way to get the Leaf from Phx to Flag via charging stations. Any thoughts on a cheap way to transport the Leaf from Phx to Flag and vice versa?
Going from Flagstaff to Phoenix should be no problem as it is most all down hill. The reverse is a problem!!
They could pick up a Level 2 at any 220 volt camp ground or RV park along the way. Have you looked into that as an option?
mn4az said:greengate said:mn4az said:Hello from Da Nort Woods (ie MN) where my parents are visiting from AZ and are very interested in my Leaf (and thus getting one themselves). However, they have one home in Phoenix and another in Flagstaff. I have checked Plugshare and there isn't a good way to get the Leaf from Phx to Flag via charging stations. Any thoughts on a cheap way to transport the Leaf from Phx to Flag and vice versa?
Going from Flagstaff to Phoenix should be no problem as it is most all down hill. The reverse is a problem!!
They could pick up a Level 2 at any 220 volt camp ground or RV park along the way. Have you looked into that as an option?
Good idea.... I will look and see if there are campgrounds off I-17
surfingslovak - thanks for putting me in the right thread.
Has anyone in Phx tried this "adventure" - diving from Phx to Flag?
shrink said:Got this from Blink yesterday. $5 per quick charge for members, $8 for non members. Seems steep. Since they use a per charge, it costs the same to charge from 30% to 50% as it would to charge from 0% to 100%. 100% on a Blink QC also seems to end around a 90% (per the Blink anyway).
Our battery degrades faster in the desert and now we have to overpay for QC's.
As of June 3, we’ll be adding Blink DC Fast Chargers to our membership plans. All Blink members will be able to fast charge at an introductory rate of just $5 per session. Guests may also charge for $8 per fast charge.
Since there's the ability to see how much current has been drawn per charge, the fee should have been based on the amount of current drawn instead of a flat fee. The flat fee per charge method will discourage use of the stations unless absolutely necessary and in the longer term would hurt not just the users but Blink's revenue from the usage fees as well.shrink said:Got this from Blink yesterday. $5 per quick charge for members, $8 for non members. Seems steep. Since they use a per charge, it costs the same to charge from 30% to 50% as it would to charge from 0% to 100%. 100% on a Blink QC also seems to end around a 90% (per the Blink anyway).
Our battery degrades faster in the desert and now we have to overpay for QC's.
As of June 3, we’ll be adding Blink DC Fast Chargers to our membership plans. All Blink members will be able to fast charge at an introductory rate of just $5 per session. Guests may also charge for $8 per fast charge.
Is the bolded section because AZ didn't amend a law to let them charge by the kWh? You can do it in California without being a power company.turbo2ltr said:They aren't a power company so apparently they can't have a fee based on power usage. This is also why you get charged per hour when plugged into a level 2 charger instead of only getting charged for the time you are actually drawing current.
I think $5 is high, but acceptable for emergencies. I did not catch that this is an "introductory" rate when I got the email. They may just say that in case they need to raise it in the future, but if they plan to raise the cost over $5, then I probably won't be using as often as I do now. Not that I use them much anyway, my drive cycle rarely requires use of any outside charging.
kovalb said:I really wish the fast charging would stay free, but I also wish all charging, and everything in life, were all free.
It's actually not a bad deal though. I look at it two ways.
1. The business case requires around a hundred thousand dollars just for the quick charger, plus the capital required to run a high current circuit to it. It is going to take a lot of charging sessions to recoup all that investment. I think the cost for charging must still be subsidized looking at those numbers.
2. $5 would buy about a gallon and a half of gasoline. That would take you maybe between 40 and 60 miles in an efficient ICE car. It would also take you a similar distance in a LEAF on the freeway. This would make me tend to preference taking the ICE car for long trips except for one thing. I would only be paying for the electricity for the return trip, the outbound would still be from my charging at home during off-peak rates (under 7 cents/kWh).
It's also comforting to know the quick chargers are out there in case I would ever really need one. I give ECOtality and the businesses installing their units credit for taking steps leading into the future in uncharted territory.
jspearman said:Anyone know if there are chargers in Sedona? One hotel says they offer charging, but not on plug share, so I'm assuming its just a wall plug.
kovalb said:2. $5 would buy about a gallon and a half of gasoline. That would take you maybe between 40 and 60 miles in an efficient ICE car. It would also take you a similar distance in a LEAF on the freeway.
The membership fee is being waived so you can sign-up for premium membership free.shrink said:kovalb said:What does a membership cost? $30?
jspearman said:So upon further digging I found out that their Tesla charger is the twist and lock that was used on the roadster, so even the Model S is out of luck, I guess. I can't believe a new-agey place like Sedona doesn't have even one J1772 charger.
jspearman said:So upon further digging I found out that their Tesla charger is the twist and lock that was used on the roadster, so even the Model S is out of luck, I guess. I can't believe a new-agey place like Sedona doesn't have even one J1772 charger.
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