Could someone list which features of the Leaf aren't available in this list, which is for a Versa 1.8 SL Hatchback with nav. package:
Exterior features:
16" x 5.5" machined finish alloy wheels
P195/55R16 all-season tires
Compact spare tire
Body color front/rear bumpers
Rear roof spoiler
Sport front/rear fascias
Black grille w/chrome accent
Multi-reflector halogen headlamps
Front fog lights
Body color folding remote-controlled pwr mirrors
Variable intermittent windshield wipers w/mist function
Intermittent rear wiper w/washer
Body color door handles
Entertainment features:
180-watt AM/FM stereo w/CD/MP3 player -inc: (6) speakers, aux input, iPod input, radio data system (RDS), speed-sensitive volume
Bluetooth hands-free phone system
Roof mounted antenna
To which I added the $700 nav. package:
Nissan Navigation System with 5" color touch-screen monitor
SiriusXM Satellite Radio and NavTraffic with 3-month trial subscription [1]
USB connection port for iPod® interface and other compatible devices
[1] Required SiriusXM Satellite Radio, NavTraffic and NavWeather Subscriptions sold separately. Installation costs, one-time activation fee, other fees and taxes will apply. NavTraffic available in select markets. SiriusXM Satellite Radio U.S. service and NavWeather service available only to those 18 or older in the 48 contiguous states and D.C. Fees and programming subject to change. Subscriptions governed by Customer Agreement available at siriusxm.com. ©2012 Sirius XM Radio Inc. Sirius, XM and all related marks and logos are trademarks of Sirius XM Radio Inc.
interior features
Reclining front bucket seats -inc: active head restraints, double-thickness foam in front seats
6-way manual driver seat -inc: height adjustment, center armrest
4-way manual passenger seat -inc: center armrest
60/40 split fold-down rear seat w/outboard adjustable headrests
Woven cloth seat trim
Soft-touch front center armrest
Rear center armrest w/cup holder & cover
Dual front & rear cup holders
Aluminum side kick plates
Tilt steering column
Leather-wrapped steering wheel -inc: steering wheel mounted audio/cruise/Bluetooth controls
Silver accent IP trim finisher -inc: silver shifter finisher
Tachometer
Fasten seat belt warning light/chime
Speed sensitive pwr door locks
Pwr windows
Cruise control
Intelligent Key keyless entry & ignition system
Remote fuel lid release
Immobilizer system
Vehicle security system
Pwr rear liftgate release
Air conditioning w/in-cabin microfilter
Rear window defroster w/timer
12V pwr outlet
Silver finish interior door handles
Driver & front passenger map pockets
Rear passenger map pockets
(2) front map lights
Auto-dimming rearview mirror
Dual illuminated visor vanity mirrors w/covers
Front & rear passenger folding assist grips
Carpeted floor & cargo area
Cargo area lamp
Tonneau cover
MSRP (incl. Dest. Charge), $19,970. About the only things I see missing from the Leaf SL are heated seats and steering wheel and the backup camera. All but the heated steering wheel are available aftermarket (for a lot less than Nissan would charge), and the seats and steering wheel are a lot less important for an ICE with a heater that doesn't decrease range.
Yodrak said:
I think the Leaf-Versa comparison is a good one - similar size and style. What's not valid is attributing all of the price differential to the fact that the Leaf is an EV. A value also needs to be attributed to the additional features that the Leaf has but the Versa does not, similar to the kinds of adjustments that home appraisers make when setting a home value based on comparable homes. The Versa price should be adjusted upward assuming that some Versa buyers would pay for those features if they were available. Or, conversely, adjust the Leaf price downward for removing those features assuming that some Leaf buyers would not pay for those features if they didn't have to.
Problems I have with the article other than failure to adjust price for comparability of features other than gas v electric - actually, problems with statements by the TrueCar rep who is quoted in the article:
- " “The price of the vehicle, you only pay it once and then soon forget about it,” Mr. Toprak said. " No, most people take out a loan to buy or they lease. They make a payment and are reminded about what the car cost them every month. Not as often as they pay for gas for an ICE vehicle, but often enough that they do not forget about what the car's cost was. As the article's author goes on to say, "Mr. Moran, 34, knew his fuel savings would be overshadowed by his new monthly loan payment, ..."
- "According to TrueCar, a buyer who chose the Leaf instead of a Nissan Versa would need to drive it for almost nine years at today’s gas prices or six years at $5 a gallon before the fuel savings outweighed the nearly $10,000 difference in price." As I've said already, and others have also pointed out, a chunk of that difference in price is attributable to features that the car has other than its electric drive.
Remind me to not base my buying decisions based on information from TrueCar.
thankyouOB said:
does the versa have:
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thankyouOB said:
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/05/business/energy-environment/for-hybrid-and-electric-cars-to-pay-off-owners-must-wait.html?_r=1&hp
more butt ugly from folks who dont get it.
versa and more.