nosuchthing
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nerys said:For my personal set of circumstances the volt is quite literally one of the most expensive options available.
10 year Real cost is roughly $98,000 NOT counting repairs after the warranty expires 3 years in (100,000 miles) and not counting the 2 very expensive batteries i would have to buy in that 10 year span. It is as expensive as a tesla over a 10 year span.
I could buy 3 new leafs 1 every 3 years for that much cash and still have money left over.
The volt is quite literally a non starter. It is not even an option in the equation.
The prius is not far behind it at $78,000 over 10 years.
The leaf is $42,000 including 2 batteries plus any maintenance it will need after 3 years.
It is not even a vaguely close comparison.
Hell. When you include maintenance the leaf is comparable in ownership cost to a freaking geo metro. A used one. Which would require $36,000 in fuel alone in that 10 year span.
So yeah. I am willing to goto great lengths to surpass its limitatikns and make it work for my commute needs.
That would be a mistake. Lease is the way to go. I have never ever leased before. Now I'm leasing Spark and Soul EVs and the math is undeniable. You lose more money on purchased EV via depreciation and obsolence (newer cars with more range) than paying for the lease. That besides the headache of unloading the old car for a decent price.DaveinOlyWA said:So I look forward to checking out options late fall of 2016 and am pretty sure I will be in the market to buy, not lease for the first time in 6 years...
ILETRIC said:That would be a mistake. Lease is the way to go. I have never ever leased before. Now I'm leasing Spark and Soul EVs and the math is undeniable. You lose more money on purchased EV via depreciation and obsolence (newer cars with more range) than paying for the lease. That besides the headache of unloading the old car for a decent price.DaveinOlyWA said:So I look forward to checking out options late fall of 2016 and am pretty sure I will be in the market to buy, not lease for the first time in 6 years...
Be aware of the fact that even in the lease you do get the benefit of the $7,500 Federal money. It's embedded in the lease price. I have posted a simple formula how to calculate a killer lease deal on the MyKiaSoulEV site. I can paste it here if interested.
ILETRIC said:That would be a mistake. Lease is the way to go. I have never ever leased before. Now I'm leasing Spark and Soul EVs and the math is undeniable. You lose more money on purchased EV via depreciation and obsolence (newer cars with more range) than paying for the lease. That besides the headache of unloading the old car for a decent price.DaveinOlyWA said:So I look forward to checking out options late fall of 2016 and am pretty sure I will be in the market to buy, not lease for the first time in 6 years...
Be aware of the fact that even in the lease you do get the benefit of the $7,500 Federal money. It's embedded in the lease price. I have posted a simple formula how to calculate a killer lease deal on the MyKiaSoulEV site. I can paste it here if interested.
ILETRIC said:Buying an EV has become a big IF for me. I lost 9 grand on Leaf. I am loath repeating that again. EVs are a work in progress for a few years forward, so buying one is not going to be cut and dry for a while.
I particularly would like to see Magnesium-based and/or Lithium-Sulfur chemistry before anything else. I will consider buying again once we reach at least 400-mile, real-life range mark. By then the infrastructure will also be denser and more operable.
ILETRIC said:Buying an EV has become a big IF for me. I lost 9 grand on Leaf. I am loath repeating that again. EVs are a work in progress for a few years forward, so buying one is not going to be cut and dry for a while.
pkulak said:You'd have lost 9 grand on a lease too...
ILETRIC said:
TomT said:No, with the ludicrously high lease residuals that Nissan used on the Leaf, it is a win for the consumer, unlike a purchase where the subsequent resale value is mediocre...
pkulak said:You'd have lost 9 grand on a lease too...
Valdemar said:TomT said:No, with the ludicrously high lease residuals that Nissan used on the Leaf, it is a win for the consumer, unlike a purchase where the subsequent resale value is mediocre...
pkulak said:You'd have lost 9 grand on a lease too...
Unless you need to drive 20000 miles or more per year.
Seriously. It fits.CMYK4Life said:*Rolls eyes* Seriously? Will your head fit in there?
ILETRIC said:You should look inside. It's a real car. But ultimately for me it's all about range, nothing else.
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