IBELEAF
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I am finding that Volt is roughly 20-30% less efficient then Leaf. Is this everyone else experience? I guess it's expected because it is heavier with more hp.
IBELEAF said:I am finding that Volt is roughly 20-30% less efficient then Leaf. Is this everyone else experience? I guess it's expected because it is heavier with more hp.
BEV : 3.54 years, 56.9k miles. 100% Electric. Used: 0.0gals
BEV : 1.66 years, 25.7k miles. 100% Electric. Used: 0.0gals
EREV : 1.47 years, 15.4k miles. 83.2% Electric. Used: 70.3gals
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LAST 1.47 years= 55.3k miles. 4.7% Electric. 70.3gals *
IBELEAF said:I am finding that Volt is roughly 20-30% less efficient then Leaf. Is this everyone else experience? I guess it's expected because it is heavier with more hp.
Yes, edatoakrun, is doing everything in his power to do this regardless of the number of LEAF owners who also have bought the Volt and have shared their positive views. Or the only LEAF owners who have become more open minded after 3 model years of the Volt have been out and are performing well in all areas of the country.DaveinOlyWA said:since this thread has kinda degenerated into "my car is great, your car is worthless" vein.
I don't own a LEAF (although I rented one for a few days on a business trip). I'm getting 4 miles per kWh at the wall on my regular commute (48 miles of range on 12.25 kWh or so). That's like doing 100% charge on a LEAF of around 25 kWh and getting around 98 miles of range. That's on 2011 Volt that is rated at 94 MPGe. The 2013 Volt is around 4-5% more efficient and is rated at 98 MPGe (LEAF is rated as 99 MPGe).IBELEAF said:I am finding that Volt is roughly 20-30% less efficient then Leaf. Is this everyone else experience? I guess it's expected because it is heavier with more hp.
scottf200 said:So we went out to dinner (German) with friends last night. I enjoyed some Octoberfest freshments and decided it was best if wife drove home. We (she) couldn't quite make it home without gas and used 0.07 gallons. I went out the garage this morning to head out to play racquetball. Saw the car was not plugged in. Dang it. Oh well no reason to take our ICE only vehicle and I get to see what kinds of gas mileage I get.
1st short ride is me forgetting my water bottle so I came back to the house. Thought the SOCs were interesting.
Used 0.46 gallons to go 21.08 miles for 45.82 MPG. Drove it in SPORTs mode and didn't coddle it either!
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IBELEAF said:I am finding that Volt is roughly 20-30% less efficient then Leaf. Is this everyone else experience? I guess it's expected because it is heavier with more hp.
DrInnovation said:IBELEAF said:I am finding that Volt is roughly 20-30% less efficient then Leaf. Is this everyone else experience? I guess it's expected because it is heavier with more hp.
Since you've owned both, your statement has some added weight. What is your driving route/experience? How are you measuring efficient (from wall, or what the car reports). Are you driving both cars the same, or are you using that added HP to accelerate faster/drive faster (its really easy to get carried away in the Volt).
My EV MPGe for August 2012 was 130.07. Mostly my daily commute with 1000ft elevation change and 45mph limits on most of it.
DaveinOlyWA said:DrInnovation said:IBELEAF said:I am finding that Volt is roughly 20-30% less efficient then Leaf. Is this everyone else experience? I guess it's expected because it is heavier with more hp.
Since you've owned both, your statement has some added weight. What is your driving route/experience? How are you measuring efficient (from wall, or what the car reports). Are you driving both cars the same, or are you using that added HP to accelerate faster/drive faster (its really easy to get carried away in the Volt).
My EV MPGe for August 2012 was 130.07. Mostly my daily commute with 1000ft elevation change and 45mph limits on most of it.
wondering if the knowledge that one can fall back on gas means subconsciously one drives less efficiently in the Volt than they would in a limited range EV where driving efficiently can be the difference between 65 miles or 90 miles?
Congrats. If you have not signed up yet at the main Volt forum http://www.gm-volt.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; go do it. As well you can go to http://www.voltstat.net" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; and sign up to get your driving stats easily uploaded 4 x per day. That site is by a Volt owner and it acts like a phone app to retrieve the same information you can access on your phone. 1600+ people have signed up.Vlad92 said:Hi Guys... so excited... just brought my new Volt home this evening. 2013 base model in red. Bought from a dealer 34 miles away and made it home with charge to spare. Not sure how good my deal was (36 month lease, 10K miles a year, 0 down, $279 / month plus tax)... but bottom line is I'm happy. Initally wanted the Leaf, but distances and infrastructure here in Nebraska won't allow that right now so I went with the Volt. Will post more over the weekend... been a VERY long day.
Ian, are you seriously that naive? Almost all cars have leases as options are are counted as sales because they are purchased by a bank/entity and then leased. GM/dealer no longer owns them. This is basic and standard practice. There have been several articles that debunked the latest politics of the lease vs sales. Lot of LEAFs are leased as well.MrIanB said:Autoblog.com has an interesting article on VOLT "sales" numbers on their front page.
link: http://green.autoblog.com/2012/09/20/forbes-columnist-takes-stab-at-gms-scams-with-chevy-vo/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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scottf200 said:Ian, are you seriously that naive? Almost all cars have leases as options are are counted as sales because they are purchased by a bank/entity and then leased. GM/dealer no longer owns them. This is basic and standard practice. There have been several articles that debunked the latest politics of the lease vs sales. Lot of LEAFs are leased as well.MrIanB said:Autoblog.com has an interesting article on VOLT "sales" numbers on their front page.
link: http://green.autoblog.com/2012/09/20/forbes-columnist-takes-stab-at-gms-scams-with-chevy-vo/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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