evnow
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They probably think most of the people will get installations done.
BTW, who paid for assessment training ... AV or installers ?
BTW, who paid for assessment training ... AV or installers ?
garygid said:The "training" might only be a few sheets of instructions, and a badge.
mwalsh said:garygid said:Makes one wonder who is getting the non-refundable $100.
Did the on-line credit-card billing go to Nissan, or AeroVironment?
I hear that it went to AV...the electrical contractors have gotten nothing, yet.
My guy said he had to attend an 8-hour course in Fremont where there were about 30 students. He has requested (and expects to get as a quid pro quo) an AV trainer to come to his business in SF and do it in 4 hours for a class of 15 since he has done them several favors (in doing assessments that they needed done). He said he has to pay the "students" who work for him regular time. AV pays nothing. He also said if this works out as expected (~90% of assessments will result in doing the work at the quoted price) he "will be a hero" in his office, but for now it is all overhead. This suggests there is a big profit margin on the installs.evnow said:They probably think most of the people will get installations done.
BTW, who paid for assessment training ... AV or installers ?
Rat said:This suggests there is a big profit margin on the installs.
The GE WattStation will be commercially available globally in 2011, and a home version will be unveiled later this year.
Boomer23 said:She said that I should be receiving my quote this week and to call back if I didn't. We also discussed the fact that mine might have been a bit more complex, including a request for a quote for a TOU meter option, so that might be adding to the delay.
hill said:Paying $2,200 for a $700 charger may not be the only way to go:
Gee, that looks to me like a "great" way to pay $2000 or more for a $700 charging dock, if anyone really wants to pay three times as much for the same function. Or do you really think GE will sell anything that fancy for under two grand? -- for the hardware alone (installation extra).hill said:Paying $2,200 for a $700 charger may not be the only way to go:
http://www.geindustrial.com/publibrary/checkout/DEA-514?TNR=Brochures|DEA-514|generic
Looks like GE just raised the bar . . . hea hea hea
Huh? Where did that come from? The AV charging dock isn't 120v, it's 240v. And it will let the Leaf charge just as fast as your GE cutie. GE said 8 hours or 4 hours, but you won't see the 4 hour number - from GE or AV - until Nissan builds a 6.6kW charger inside the Leaf.hill said:Heck, there's no rush, if the Leaf is only able to charge at 120v via aeroenvironment any way.
EVDRIVER said:I'm now considering alternatives to the AV EVSE for a couple reasons:
1) The bull of the cost is labor
2) The unit has a max of 6.6kw and I plan on buying a second EV at some point and I am confident most on board chargers will be 7.2 kw or higher as we see already today so I only want to make one purchase.
3) Th AV EVSE looks a bit cheap compared to other models as if it were made as basic as possible for cost cutting.
With wholesale pricing, even if I spend about $3000 on a 9.2 kw model and get a 50% tax credit and do the installation myself, I'm only paying $400 more than the AV unit but I'm getting more output, future proofing, a proven design and a more industrial design based on what I have seen. ... I may be stuck with a 6.6kw EVSE and a EV purchase later that will be restricted to a product "matched" EVSE.
EVDRIVER said:I'm now considering alternatives to the AV EVSE for a couple reasons:
1) The bull of the cost is labor
LEAFer said:Buy a 16.8kW HPC from Tesla for $1,950, and a $250 (estimate) J1772 cable from ClipperCreek. Heck, they might even credit you the cost of the HPC's proprietary cable you don't need (or someone will buy it from you for another project).
It's a Clipper Creek unit that has a J1772 sticker, so I believe the signalling is J1772 compliant. The connector at the end is Tesla proprietary. Also note that Tesla was working with the committee and is ( I am told ) the party responsible for getting the spec up to 80A.AndyH said:LEAFer said:Buy a 16.8kW HPC from Tesla for $1,950, and a $250 (estimate) J1772 cable from ClipperCreek. Heck, they might even credit you the cost of the HPC's proprietary cable you don't need (or someone will buy it from you for another project).
Tesla's not J1772 though, is it?
LEAFer said:It's a Clipper Creek unit that has a J1772 sticker, so I believe the signalling is J1772 compliant. The connector at the end is Tesla proprietary. Also note that Tesla was working with the committee and is ( I am told ) the party responsible for getting the spec up to 80A.AndyH said:LEAFer said:Buy a 16.8kW HPC from Tesla for $1,950, and a $250 (estimate) J1772 cable from ClipperCreek. Heck, they might even credit you the cost of the HPC's proprietary cable you don't need (or someone will buy it from you for another project).
Tesla's not J1772 though, is it?
ClipperCreek's TS-unit link: here
The PDF on this CC unit says "J1772 coupler", but the reason for suggesting purchase from Tesla is the price. I don't know what's going on there (volume ? it's not that high) ... but IIRC, CC wants $3,000 last I heard, so you can save $1,050 right there :shock: but then you need the J1772 coupler.
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