TickTock
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Last time I got 10 bars for my daily 80% was 5/19/2012. Exactly one day before losing the 12 capacity bar. Been seeing 9 ever since.
208 Gids now. I did not measure it before I did the 100% charge.EdmondLeaf said:Shay, what was your GID @ 80% with 9 capacity bars and now with 10 bars, did change much?
kennyboy said:Started getting 9 bars with 80% charge yesterday (END TIMER set to end right before I depart for work). It happened again this morning.
I will try charging to 100% and letting the cells balance for ~4 hours and then drive some of that off in the morning and see what the 80% charges do after that.
I live in Tennessee. Got my LEAF in October 2011 and have 14,000 miles on it right now.
JPWhite said:kennyboy said:Started getting 9 bars with 80% charge yesterday (END TIMER set to end right before I depart for work). It happened again this morning.
I will try charging to 100% and letting the cells balance for ~4 hours and then drive some of that off in the morning and see what the 80% charges do after that.
I live in Tennessee. Got my LEAF in October 2011 and have 14,000 miles on it right now.
I got mine at end of July last year and have 13,500 miles, so am a few months ahead of you but a few miles behind. I have found if I initiate a charge the following morning when at 9 bars, the 10th bar is lit up within 1-2 minutes of the charge override starting. The 10th bar is only just not available.
Here are the dates I have had 9 bar charges.
Date Gap (days)
6/9/2012
6/24/2012 15
6/29/2012 5
7/7/2012 8
7/13/2012 6
7/15/2012 2
7/17/2012 2
7/20/2012 3
7/25/2012 5
7/27/2012 2
Averaging every 5 days, more recent its every 2-3 days.
Let's hope we are both a long way from being the first to lose a capacity bar in Tennessee.
kennyboy said:edited my original post to add temp and charge level info
Put differently, usable capacity is typically 93% of total capacity, but that 93% is not a hard constant, probably bouncing around primarily because of inaccuracies in the measurements the battery ECU is making. What I suspect is that Phil may not yet have been able to measure whether there is an upward or downward trend in that percentage as the battery ages. Consider the possibility that the ECU might always "wall off" some constant number of watt hours from the usable range. This would cause the usable range to shrink more rapidly than the 80% number. The kWh value of the bars would presumably also shrink faster than the 80% number, yielding a possible explanation for the 9-bar phenomenon.Ingineer said:SOC means state of charge, not State of Capacity, so it's showing you how much charge is in the total capacity. It never goes to 100% and never goes to zero either. (typically 2% -95%)
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Because the SOC when "fully" charged seems to vary a lot (I've seen 93-96% so far)...
csriram45 said:Even though I am still getting 10 bars. I lose it after driving just 1 mile. I am also losing bar faster than usual while driving. Is this something I should be concerned. 13,500 miles purchases apr 2011. Sf bay area
cash4solar said:I think I just set a record. Not a good one either. I bought a new 2011 SL Leaf with QC in May of this year. I now have only 3,000 miles on it but yesterday and today, I got only 9 bars on on the dash when I charged to 80 percent. ..The car was delivered to the dealer I bought it from in Nov. of last year and sat on the lot for about 6 months but, when I test drove it, it was not near 100 percent charged so, I don't think it was sitting at full charge since it only had 15 miles on it...
cash4solar said:The car was delivered to the dealer I bought it from in Nov. of last year and sat on the lot for about 6 months but, when I test drove it.
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