evnow said:I think the idea might have been to increase range early on - but the need for "hot" battery trumped need for range increase.
Hopefully we'll get range increase next year - right in time for when my lease ends in May '15
DNAinaGoodWay said:You think the '16s will be out in May?
Get a new Leaf on 2 year lease.NYLEAF said:I could extend my Leaf lease, but I'm paying $462/mo and I'd really like to get into a car with a smaller monthly payment. :shock:
Truthfully my current lease is such a good deal ($125 a month) I'd be tempted to keep it for as long as I can and wait for a really improved EV. Even if that takes me to 2016.DNAinaGoodWay said:You think the '16s will be out in May? You may have to extend the lease a couple of months. Looks like they're trying to get the new model years out in the fall, like most OEMs.
NYLEAF said:I'm really, really bummed by this news. My lease is up in April 2015 and I have no idea what I'll be doing for a new car. I'd feel stupid to get a 2015 Leaf when I suspect that a new Leaf with better range is right around the corner. I also don't want to jump into a Volt or Kia Soul EV or Ford Focus EV and get locked in with a 3 year lease when a much improved Leaf comes out just a few months later. I could extend my Leaf lease, but I'm paying $462/mo and I'd really like to get into a car with a smaller monthly payment. :shock:
LTLFTcomposite said:In an unrelated story, GM seems to forthcoming about improvements they are plodding along with for 2015. Will the Volt AER surpass the Leaf in 2015?
http://www.edmunds.com/car-news/2015-chevrolet-volt-expected-to-expand-range-double-powertrain-offerings.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
The battery pack also will be more compact than the one in today's car.
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The car can run in pure electric mode for about 38 miles. The redesigned model is expected to run in pure electric mode for about 60 miles
tailgate1234 said:At this point I would prefer a low degradation battery with the same range as when my 2011 was new instead a modest increase in range with a big degradation curve.
There is zero evidence the battery will have any kind of cooling other than what it has now (which is none).brian123 said:Hmm, I'm excited about possibly better battery cooling, but not liking that Ocean Blue and Light Grey interior seem to be going away.
It's even worse than that. EPA range is the average of the range with each charge option, 80% and 100%, or if the car has only one charge option it's range with that charge. So to "increase" the range Nissan eliminated the 80% charge option. So to advertise higher range without delivering a single mile of actual increased range, Nissan significantly damaged the product by making the battery degrade even faster. Not their most heroic moment. (That was when they decided to produce a mass market EV at all.)TomT said:It only jumped because of a change in the test methodology... There was no real increase in range...
I wouldn't read too much into that. The Canadian spec Leafs are optioned differently than the US. See http://www.nissan.ca/en/electric-cars/leaf/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;.DNAinaGoodWay said:Seems they're eliminating option packages. Everything is included in each trim level.
essaunders said:http://www.greencarreports.com/news/1084193_2013-nissan-leaf-final-ratings-issued-115-mpge-75-miles-of-range" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
And then yes, 2014 gets "84 miles" (http://insideevs.com/2014-nissan-leaf-mostly-unchanged-as-range-technically-moves-up-to-84-miles/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false because of the elimination of the 80% charge option. :roll:The 2013 Leaf is also rated at 75 miles of range, up from the 73-mile rating of the 2011 and 2012 models.
Although, as Nissan explained several weeks ago, that rating is deceptive, because it's now an average of the range offered by an 80-percent charge (66 miles) and a 100-percent charge (84 miles).
The 2011-2012 rating of 73 miles was based entirely on a 100-percent charge, so it compares directly to the 84-mile distance--a 15-percent improvement.
cwerdna said:I wouldn't read too much into that. The Canadian spec Leafs are optioned differently than the US. See http://www.nissan.ca/en/electric-cars/leaf/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;.DNAinaGoodWay said:Seems they're eliminating option packages. Everything is included in each trim level.
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