FairwoodRed said:Far as I know, I'm the second to lose a bar in Washington state, and at roughly half the mileage as TaylorSFguy. He lives just a few miles from me.
So that maybe makes one of you an outlier. Either his pack has done extremely well or your pack has done quite badly.
"A few miles" here can easily mean a difference of 10-15 degrees, due to the numerous and varied micro-climates we have. Does the same hold true where you are or is it much the same throughout the area?