Boomer23
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Herm said:the iMiev uses forced ventilation to cool the battery pack.
That uses the car's air conditioner to help cooling, I believe.
Herm said:the iMiev uses forced ventilation to cool the battery pack.
Who makes the battery for the Mitsubishi i?
We do. The high-quality lithium-ion battery in the Mitsubishi i is made possible by Japan Lithium Energy. This company is a joint venture between GS Yuasa and Mitsubishi Corporation, giving us the ability to offer a battery that was specifically designed for our EV.
Interesting, it looks like they could be migrating from their own proprietary technology to an off-the-shelf OEM design then. Isn't that what Renault did in their recent talks with LG Chem? Any idea what lithium chemistry the GS/Mitsu cells have?JRP3 said:Not according to their FAQ
Mitsubishi has clarified that Toshiba's batteries will power a lower-priced model of its i-MiEV with driving distance of about 120 km per charge and not its standard i-MiEV with 160 km per charge, which will continue to use the batteries supplied by Lithium Energy Japan, a joint venture (JV) of Mitsubishi Motors, GS Yuasa Corp.
"We've also been very transparent in making sure people know that battery capacity will degrade in very high heat – for instance, if the cars sit out in 110-degree heat for five hours a day."
Nissan's Internet monitors also learned about those complaints by reading recent Web discussions. Perry estimated there have been fewer than a dozen incidents and that the automaker is paying for battery repairs as it investigates.
for instance, if the cars sit out in 110-degree heat for five hours a day."
Perry estimated there have been fewer than a dozen incidents .
TonyWilliams said:for instance, if the cars sit out in 110-degree heat for five hours a day."
That was in the owner's manual after the "120F for 24 hours" thing. Didn't you see it in the latest revision, dated August 1, 2012 ?
:mrgreen:
"We've also been very transparent in making sure people know that battery capacity will degrade in very high heat – for instance, if the cars sit out in 110-degree heat for five hours a day."
Wow - completely BS. I have never heard that before. In fact - I only recall ever seeing 2 heat-related things that would significantly affect capacity. 1. Heated paint booths when repairing a LEAF. 2. Storing a LEAF at 120F for over 24 hours will void the warranty.leafkabob said:This statement from Mark Perry is a new one on me:
"We've also been very transparent in making sure people know that battery capacity will degrade in very high heat – for instance, if the cars sit out in 110-degree heat for five hours a day."
They're not doing a very good job - otherwise they would have spotted this issue months ago and nipped it in the bud. If they keep this up they are quickly going to see an angry mob of early adopters gathering with virtual pitchforks. They are not handling this situation well at all (see my earlier rant in the marketing thread).leafkabob said:They learned about the battery problems from their "internet monitors?"Nissan's Internet monitors also learned about those complaints by reading recent Web discussions. Perry estimated there have been fewer than a dozen incidents and that the automaker is paying for battery repairs as it investigates.
Hah - Perry's quote there (link directly to quote):azdre said:What?!?!?!?!?! I really hope that was a misquote. I know most of you have seen this, but reposting... Fast forward to 3:30 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DShtvd5jJHQ&feature=plcp
Completely opposite.This is not a you're just parked in the parking lot at 110 degrees and you have to worry about it - this is a you're parked in Death Valley and it's 130 degrees outside and you're going to leave it there for a week - that's bad
They have definitely stepped up the scrutiny of this forum. There were even folks that labored through the entire 200 odd pages of this thread, some of them as recently as yesterday.TonyWilliams said:BTW, hello Nissan !!!! Thanks for monitoring me
Agreed. I mentioned in a private conversation with a friend that at this rate, Nissan might be headed for an ugly confrontation with disenchanted owners in the not too distant future. What a train-wreck!drees said:They're not doing a very good job - otherwise they would have spotted this issue months ago and nipped it in the bud. If they keep this up they are quickly going to see an angry mob of early adopters gathering with virtual pitchforks. They are not handling this situation well at all (see my earlier rant in the marketing thread).
TonyWilliams said:Ok, now I'm confused. if Mark Perry said the "110F in a few hours", I've got my pitchfork ready. If, however, somebody badly botched his statement, every post needs to be edited by the respective author, or moderator, to fix this.
WE DON'T NEED FUEL ON THE FIRE !!!!
I've never heard or seen this before. In fact, Nissan has been so vague with their battery care recommendations that we had regular arguments about this very topic. Here is what Mark Perry said in response to Darryl Siry's article in the Wired:azdre said:"We've also been very transparent in making sure people know that battery capacity will degrade in very high heat – for instance, if the cars sit out in 110-degree heat for five hours a day."
Click to openMark Perry said:We don’t need thermal management for the U.S., but we are looking at the technology for Dubai and other locations like that…. We’ve gone on the record saying that the pack has a 70 to 80 percent capacity after 10 years.
TonyWilliams said:Ok, now I'm confused. if Mark Perry said the "110F in a few hours", I've got my pitchfork ready. If, however, somebody badly botched his statement, every post needs to be edited by the respective author, or moderator, to fix this.
WE DON'T NEED FUEL ON THE FIRE !!!!
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