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Being first - Texas - Battery has lost its top bar

Sun Jun 17, 2012 3:50 pm

Dallas, Texas - on the exact 1 year anniversary, I got in my car today to find the top bar of my battery is gone. 1 year, 20,200 miles. Garage at home, but not at work. First 6 months was all 100% charge, last 6 was 80% weekdays and 100% weekends. QCd numerous times (over 20 at least), and QCd twice in one day only once.

This should start mirroring arizona since Texas cars have been around for just as long, but have a slightly lower temperature, but still greater than the west coast. It looks like this is definitely a trend and not an "isolated incident" as Nissan is calling it. I do have my 1 year battery check tomorrow. We shall see what the dealership says.

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Re: Being first - Texas - Battery has lost its top bar

Sun Jun 17, 2012 3:53 pm

Sorry, I guess GID meter is not needed anymore for you.

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Re: Being first - Texas - Battery has lost its top bar

Sun Jun 17, 2012 3:55 pm

Thanks for sharing. The lack of TMS is looking like a big mistake.
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Re: Being first - Texas - Battery has lost its top bar

Sun Jun 17, 2012 4:01 pm

Those of us that leased are feeling smarter every day.

I honestly didn't consider the fact that I lived in a hot climate, hadn't studied battery characteristics to know that would be a consideration, but just the general uncertainty of new technology and experience with laptop batteries was definitely part of the equation.

It remains to be seen how fast the decline continues, but it seems clear this is something Nissan is going to have to address.

The fact that they were willing to put that capacity bar right there in our faces implies they had confidence in a rate of decline they would be able to defend. Imagine if it wasn't there and this was happening without anyone without a special meter noticing.
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Re: Being first - Texas - Battery has lost its top bar

Sun Jun 17, 2012 4:02 pm

shrink wrote:Thanks for sharing. The lack of TMS is looking like a big mistake.

Not for every area of the country, but certainly for the hot areas. Wonder what Nissan will do as this mushrooms.
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Re: Being first - Texas - Battery has lost its top bar

Sun Jun 17, 2012 4:12 pm

Not sure where to congratulate you or offer condolences.
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Re: Being first - Texas - Battery has lost its top bar

Sun Jun 17, 2012 4:30 pm

[quote="Pipcecil"] It looks like this is definitely a trend and not an "isolated incident" as Nissan is calling it. I do have my 1 year battery check tomorrow. We shall see what the dealership says.

Most of us already knew it wasn't an isolated incident when one after the other here started losing a bar. I'm willing to bet that there are hundreds of LEAFs here that have either lost a bar or are close to it. The reason Nissan said "five" is because they monitor this forum and used that old information. They really know that it is in the hundreds.
The dealership will say what all the other dealerships have said, "It's gradual and normal."
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Re: Being first - Texas - Battery has lost its top bar

Sun Jun 17, 2012 10:27 pm

Pipcecil you and I charged the Leaf almost idenical in our history of charging..Congrats on not losing the top bar until 20k ...I lost mine @ 16k...
Ill wait for winter time to do majority of 100% charging when the garage in the 70 degree range and do 80% charges the majority of time doing the summer when the garage is 90+ @ night..

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Re: Being first - Texas - Battery has lost its top bar

Mon Jun 18, 2012 5:36 am

We came out one morning it was supposed to charge to 100% and found the top bar wasn't lit. It was a night that we charged to 100% when the battery was already at a fairly high SOC, I think 80%. Haven't seen the problem since and we've been back to our usual ritual of 100% on weekdays and 80% on weekends.. I chalked it up to a bug/feature in the SW where it gets confused topping off.

Has anyone else seen the top bar go away and then come back?

+1 on the leasing. From time to time I entertain the idea of buying out the lease early, then things like this pop up as a reminder of why I did so in the first place... better to stick with the three year test drive for now :-)

Edit: I see now that is the capacity indicator, not SOC, and don't recall which was missing when we had our anomaly.
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Re: Being first - Texas - Battery has lost its top bar

Mon Jun 18, 2012 6:40 am

The only positive aspect of this is the potential extended performance that you get out of warm batteries vs. people in cold climates, where it drops quite a bit. But at least they aren't getting their batteries damaged. Just lowered run times.
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