The charger, which is located inside the Leaf. At one point, Nissan hinted that they might be able to upgrade current Leafs, but now they say it can't be done. Forget it, not gonna happen.jpokoraw1 said:What needs to be added or replaced to increase charging from 3.3k to 6.6k level 2? I would pay for this upgrade
More specifically, the charger is located in the hump behind the back seat. A higher capacity charger will almost certainly be physically larger. Can it be configured to fit inside that hump? Maybe, maybe not. Rumor has it that Nissan isn't even going to try, and will relocate the larger charger to the front of the car. Can you imagine trying to reconfigure the "engine" compartment of an existing car to accommodate an additional component like that?Stoaty said:The charger, which is located inside the Leaf. At one point, Nissan hinted that they might be able to upgrade current Leafs, but now they say it can't be done. Forget it, not gonna happen.jpokoraw1 said:What needs to be added or replaced to increase charging from 3.3k to 6.6k level 2? I would pay for this upgrade
That wouldn't be an "adapter", but an external charger. The Quick Charge port doesn't connect to the charger. It bypasses that and connects directly to the battery. Since you have never used QC you may not have seen the refrigerator-size charger boxes that hum away off to the side of the user-interface charging unit. Of course that is the size you need for 50 kW charging; the 6.6 kW charge rate you are thinking of could be done with a much smaller charger box, but it would still be heavy and bulky. Are you imagining carrying it around with you all the time in the back of the car? Wild guess: By the time you include self-contained cooling, it might fill most of the recessed part of the hatch storage space, and weigh up to 100 pounds.JimSouCal said:I would rather have something that can use the L3 port on mine (that has never been used). Maybe an L2 to L3 external adaptor?
It's actually a really innovative idea, I'm not saying it would work, but it's out of the box thinking. Ray's probably right, but who knows, you may have just sparked a great idea.planet4ever said:JimSouCal said:I would rather have something that can use the L3 port on mine (that has never been used). Maybe an L2 to L3 external adaptor?
Herm said:There are quite a few 6.6kW units on the market, Tesla has a 10kW and Zoe has a 43kW.. all presumably mass produced. All taking AC and producing about 400VDC, it would not be too hard to modify one of these as a home Chademo low power charger if someone was willing to get it UL listed.
EVDRIVER said:Herm said:There are quite a few 6.6kW units on the market, Tesla has a 10kW and Zoe has a 43kW.. all presumably mass produced. All taking AC and producing about 400VDC, it would not be too hard to modify one of these as a home Chademo low power charger if someone was willing to get it UL listed.
That defeats the point. The point is to have the charger onboard as the benefit is to charge fast when away form home not at home.
EVDRIVER said:That defeats the point. The point is to have the charger onboard as the benefit is to charge fast when away form home not at home.
edatoakrun said:EVDRIVER said:Herm said:There are quite a few 6.6kW units on the market, Tesla has a 10kW and Zoe has a 43kW.. all presumably mass produced. All taking AC and producing about 400VDC, it would not be too hard to modify one of these as a home Chademo low power charger if someone was willing to get it UL listed.
That defeats the point. The point is to have the charger onboard as the benefit is to charge fast when away form home not at home.
I would say that the point is not to have too buy a fast charger for your home or your BEV, where they will be required infrequently.
The point is to have fast chargers in public locations along highways, where the high cost of both the charger itself, and the infrastructure to bring the high kW on-site, can be amortized over many BEV owners.
The Zoe charger is not on the market yet, as the Zoe itself has been delayed until sometime in 2013, last I heard.
If anyone has the details of exactly how the Zoe has beaten the cost barrier, that all other BEV manufactures have not, I'd sure like to hear the details, and whether or not the same technology will soon be applicable to other BEVs.
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