evnow
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I guess a little better than Jan ...
I wonder if Volt sales will continue to tail off as people wait for the new model. That assumes that the typical Volt buyer is more aware of future developments than the average new car buyer, and while that was the case with the earlier adopters I'm not sure that it still is. OTOH, my corner gas station's prices have gone up from $2.40 to $3.30 in the past month, including a $0.20 jump yesterday, so at least here in California prospects may be brighter for PHEVs than in the past few months. That and the end of availability of green HOV stickers in the next few months may positively impact PHEV sales, until the stickers are gone. Once they are, I expect PHEV sales to fall off a cliff here, and only the arrival of the new Volt (or a huge jump in gas prices) is likely to restore them somewhat.evnow said:I guess a little better than Jan ...
GRA said:Once they are, I expect PHEV sales to fall off a cliff here, and only the arrival of the new Volt (or a huge jump in gas prices) is likely to restore them somewhat.
I agree, which is why I mentioned "or a huge jump in gas prices". The HOV stickers are worth thousands of dollars a year to anyone who commutes during rush hour on HOV-lane freeways, far more than the California rebate. The new Volt will cause PHEV sales to rebound somewhat, but I don't think they'll return to the level they were before unless we start seeing that long anticipated $5.00/gal. gas.TomT said:I think the disappearance of green strikers will have a significant impact even on the new Volt... I know too many people who drive a PHEV only for the stickers...GRA said:Once they are, I expect PHEV sales to fall off a cliff here, and only the arrival of the new Volt (or a huge jump in gas prices) is likely to restore them somewhat.
MrIanB said:Leaf 1,350
Volt 788
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I think there is very little Volt inventory left. So even if buyers still wanted the old version, there aren't a lot to be had.GRA said:I wonder Volt sales will continue to tail off as people wait for the new model. That assumes that the typical Volt buyer is more aware of future developments than the average new car buyer, and while that was the case with the earlier adopters I'm not sure that it still is.
It looks like the last month when the Chevy Volt outsold the Nissan LEAF was August 2013:dgpcolorado said:
The corner station jumped to $3.36 for a couple of days, then up to $3.44 yesterday. How much of this is due to the changeover to summer gas, how much due to the refinery fire in Torrance and the strike at the Tesoro refinery in Martinez, and how much to increased oil prices I won't guess, although the big jump last week has been attributed by people who are better qualified than I am to the refinery issues. Higher gas prices can only help HEV and PHEV sales, but we won't see the effect unless they're sustained for a while. And this is a California-only thing, as our special blend requirements for gasoline mean we can't just import from outside the state.GRA said:OTOH, my corner gas station's prices have gone up from $2.40 to $3.30 in the past month, including a $0.20 jump yesterday, so at least here in California prospects may be brighter for PHEVs than in the past few months. That and the end of availability of green HOV stickers in the next few months may positively impact PHEV sales, until the stickers are gone. Once they are, I expect PHEV sales to fall off a cliff here, and only the arrival of the new Volt (or a huge jump in gas prices) is likely to restore them somewhat.
I continue to be baffled by its sales success, given its price/value ratio, but then I'm not someone who's willing to pay an extra $10 grand just for the propeller and kidneys.Zythryn said:The i3 continues to impress me as a relative newcomer.
I suspect their marketing of the Fun of an EV is paying off.
Zythryn said:The i3 continues to impress me as a relative newcomer.
I suspect their marketing of the Fun of an EV is paying off.
smkettner said:i3 is still on its honeymoon.
I haven't seen/tested it myself, but I do know my boss has wanted to go electric and was psyched about the i3.Zythryn said:i enjoyed it quite a bit and would be driving one now rather than our Leaf if it were not more expensive.
GRA said:The corner station jumped to $3.36 for a couple of days, then up to $3.44 yesterday. How much of this is due to the changeover to summer gas, how much due to the refinery fire in Torrance and the strike at the Tesoro refinery in Martinez, and how much to increased oil prices I won't guess, although the big jump last week has been attributed by people who are better qualified than I am to the refinery issues. Higher gas prices can only help HEV and PHEV sales, but we won't see the effect unless they're sustained for a while. And this is a California-only thing, as our special blend requirements for gasoline mean we can't just import from outside the state.GRA said:OTOH, my corner gas station's prices have gone up from $2.40 to $3.30 in the past month, including a $0.20 jump yesterday, so at least here in California prospects may be brighter for PHEVs than in the past few months. That and the end of availability of green HOV stickers in the next few months may positively impact PHEV sales, until the stickers are gone. Once they are, I expect PHEV sales to fall off a cliff here, and only the arrival of the new Volt (or a huge jump in gas prices) is likely to restore them somewhat.
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