edatoakrun wrote:Maybe I should add to my earlier post, that while the cost of this additional warranty coverage for all 2011-2013 LEAFs may not be very large, it is a cost that will have to be passed on to all future LEAF buyers (and perhaps the buyers of replacement batteries) if The LEAF is ever to be profitable to Nissan.
So, all future LEAF buyers who do not subject their cars to those factors, such as high temperature, high SOC over time, etc. that accelerate capacity loss, will neccessarilly be subsidizing those LEAF buyers who do.
My LEAF experiences long periods with over 100 F temperatures in the Summer, and it's ~29 degrees outside, right now.
Any of you Arizona LEAF owners want to guarantee my battery capacity will be "70%" on this date in 2015, and pay the cost for my warranty?edatoakrun wrote:...Two years after the LEAF's US introduction, Nissan has now given all of us a capacity warranty significantly reducing the risk of ownership we accepted when we bought our LEAFs. I doubt Nissan executives did this out of the goodness of their hearts. I expect that it was a simple cost/benefit business calculation. And if the cost of this warranty was expected to be excessive, I doubt Nissan would have done it.
IMO, it suggests a relatively low percentage of LEAFs are now expected to sustain capacity loss below "9 bars" or ~"70% capacity" during the duration of the capacity warranty, and/or the battery packs can be inexpensively restored to higher capacity, which I consider very good news.
If any LEAF owners can't accept the inherent and unavoidable uncertainty of future cost of ownership of any BEV, I'd suggest you just sell your LEAFs now and buy yourself an ICEV or hybrid, or lease another LEAF, at the current very low (MY 2012) net price.
You forgot one point. All of those future Leaf owners will not be new cars. There will be used cars on the market that will be giving a bad reputation to the new car market, it's a cycle. This is why cars such as Camry is such a good seller, used ones are reliable and keep on running. The warranty is only in effect for 5 years so it will not be in effect for most used cars (it won't even cover those that financed for more than 60 months). As to your reference about those "who do not subject their cars to those factors, such as high temperature, high SOC over time, etc. that accelerate capacity loss, will neccessarilly be subsidizing those LEAF buyers who do", I can only say that without early adopters testing the limits of a vehicle that was clearly not tested properly and marketed as one that was, I defer to your post above in regards to the warranty being put into place and say to you, "You're welcome...".