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JeremyW
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B0133 NO BATT CAPACITY WARRANTY

Thu Jun 12, 2014 3:39 pm

So I'm getting my battery check done at Glendale Nissan and they let me know that this has been added to my service record: B0133 NO EV BATT CAPACITY WARRANTY. They didn't add it, they think it was added by corporate. I think it's because I opted out of the settlement. I encourage others who opted out to verify through your local dealer that this has also been added to your car.

Update: It is because I opted out of the settlement.

Furthermore if you are shopping for a 2011 or 2012 Leaf, this warranty exclusion is tied to the VIN. Verify before purchase, buyer beware.

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Re: B0133 NO BATT CAPACITY WARRANY

Thu Jun 12, 2014 5:59 pm

They are just begging for a lawsuit.
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Re: B0133 NO BATT CAPACITY WARRANY

Thu Jun 12, 2014 7:32 pm

What are they trying to do... piss off the early adopters again??? :evil:
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Re: B0133 NO BATT CAPACITY WARRANY

Thu Jun 12, 2014 8:54 pm

JeremyW wrote:So I'm getting my battery check done at Glendale Nissan and they let me know that this has been added to my service record: B0133 NO EV BATT CAPACITY WARRANTY. They didn't add it, they think it was added by corporate. I think it's because I opted out of the settlement. I encourage others who opted out to verify through your local dealer that this has also been added to your car.


I understand this is aggravating, but if someone opts out if settlement that provides replacement then mean you do have to sue directly or arrange direct compensation? What was the original warranty for battery at time of purchase?

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Re: B0133 NO BATT CAPACITY WARRANY

Thu Jun 12, 2014 9:07 pm

epirali wrote:I understand this is aggravating, but if someone opts out if settlement that provides replacement then mean you do have to sue directly or arrange direct compensation? What was the original warranty for battery at time of purchase?

I opted out because I thought the settlement was a sham designed to protect Nissan. Additionally, I made an educated guess (based on the Battery Aging Model) that I probably wouldn't qualify for said "warranty" until I was well past 5 years. With only 2 years to go and a loss of 17.8% (and virtually zero loss in the last 8 months), it looks like I guessed correctly. Opting out protected my ability to sue Nissan if I thought it necessary. However, it still feels like a slap in the face. Looking forward to buying a Tesla in 2017.
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Re: B0133 NO BATT CAPACITY WARRANY

Thu Jun 12, 2014 9:12 pm

Stoaty wrote:
epirali wrote:I understand this is aggravating, but if someone opts out if settlement that provides replacement then mean you do have to sue directly or arrange direct compensation? What was the original warranty for battery at time of purchase?

I opted out because I thought the settlement was a sham designed to protect Nissan. Additionally, I made an educated guess (based on the Battery Aging Model) that I probably wouldn't qualify for said "warranty" until I was well past 5 years. With only 2 years to go and a loss of 17.8% (and virtually zero loss in the last 8 months), it looks like I guessed correctly. Opting out protected my ability to sue Nissan if I thought it necessary. However, it still feels like a slap in the face. Looking forward to buying a Tesla in 2017.


Understood. I guess I am confused in that your original warranty, whether it is triggered or not, should still be in place. I don't think it can be revoked unilaterally.

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Re: B0133 NO BATT CAPACITY WARRANY

Thu Jun 12, 2014 9:32 pm

epirali wrote:Understood. I guess I am confused in that your original warranty, whether it is triggered or not, should still be in place. I don't think it can be revoked unilaterally.

Originally, Nissan did not offer a capacity warranty. They fed us the koolaid (which we eagerly drank) that they had done all kinds of testing, average battery capacity loss should be about 30% at ten years. Turns out they screwed up royally, got sued in a class action lawsuit, and got a sweetheart deal (not yet formally approved by the judge, I believe) that only required them to make good on the most severely affected Leafs that couldn't even last 5 years with 66.25% capacity remaining. The rest of us got thrown under the bus, although the ones mainly affected are those who bought rather than leased.
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Re: B0133 NO BATT CAPACITY WARRANY

Thu Jun 12, 2014 10:00 pm

And they they lowered the price of subsequent year models so our resale value leaves us no choice other than holding on to said vehicle forever. :lol:
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Re: B0133 NO BATT CAPACITY WARRANY

Fri Jun 13, 2014 12:09 am

Is anybody really surprised that when you opt out of an offer, that the manufacturer actually takes you up on it? Did anybody who decided to opt-out really think that Nissan was going to let them take advantage of the battery capacity warranty anyway?

What does concern me with this 'No Capacity Warranty" branding is how it will affect used cars...if JeremyW and others who opted-out were to sell their cars before 5 years/60k miles, does the next owner get denied the warranty as well?
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Re: B0133 NO BATT CAPACITY WARRANY

Fri Jun 13, 2014 12:25 am

Not surprising considering your Avatar image, Jeremy. ;)

Did yout dealer say anything about your Brusa?
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