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Re: Nissan Reaches Settlement in Defective LEAF Battery Clas

Wed Jul 17, 2013 9:30 pm

Wow. Just when I thought Nissan couldn't sink any lower... The whole "we'll extend the battery warranty out of the goodness of our heart", a complete and utter sham.

My lease terminates next April. I'll be saving a few extra duckets to get the RAV4 EV. Similar companies like Toyota and Honda know how to foster good relationships with their customers - hence their success. May Nissan choke on my 2/3rd's capacity paperweight.

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Re: Nissan Reaches Settlement in Defective LEAF Battery Clas

Wed Jul 17, 2013 10:00 pm

And I thought auto makers were good people. :lol: :lol:

My lease terminates next April. I'll be saving a few extra duckets to get the RAV4 EV. Similar companies like Toyota and Honda know how to foster good relationships with their customers - hence their success. May Nissan choke on my 2/3rd's capacity paperweight.


It's amazing how naive people can be.

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Re: Nissan Reaches Settlement in Defective LEAF Battery Clas

Wed Jul 17, 2013 10:04 pm

FWIW, Nissan has sometimes responded to common problems and complaints in a positive manner. The 03 and 04 350Z were known for their infamous front tire feathering issue. They ended up putting out a TSB, extended the warranty 2x on this issue which entitled many folks, including me to get their front tires replaced for free along w/a free alignment.

They've also added extended warranties for a # of issues like those listed at http://www.nissanassist.com/. You can use http://web.archive.org/ to go back in time as I believe some items were removed, once their warranty extensions expired.

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Re: Nissan Reaches Settlement in Defective LEAF Battery Clas

Wed Jul 17, 2013 10:05 pm

I'm hoping for a lawsuit that will force Nissan to disclose battery replacement cost and offer it for sale not lease.

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Re: Nissan Reaches Settlement in Defective LEAF Battery Clas

Wed Jul 17, 2013 10:09 pm

AP1 wrote:It's amazing how naive people can be.


It's equally amazing how brave people get behind a keyboard.

Instead of vomiting up insults, how about you try (if possible) to intellectualize your thoughts?

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Re: Nissan Reaches Settlement in Defective LEAF Battery Clas

Wed Jul 17, 2013 10:19 pm

cwerdna wrote:FWIW, Nissan has sometimes responded to common problems and complaints in a positive manner. The 03 and 04 350Z were known for their infamous front tire feathering issue. They ended up putting out a TSB, extended the warranty 2x on this issue which entitled many folks, including me to get their front tires replaced for free along w/a free alignment...


It's funny you mention that. I too, had that issue with my 04 350Z Roadster, and like you, knew about the TSB. However, after calling it into NNA I spent a Saturday going to three different dealers before I could get one to agree to replace a single tire. I also had to get the soft top replaced twice, the leather steering wheel replaced, and the driver side window motor replaced -all within three years on their supposed FLAGSHIP product made in Japan.

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Re: Nissan Reaches Settlement in Defective LEAF Battery Clas

Wed Jul 17, 2013 10:32 pm

^^^
IIRC, I'd gone to Falore Nissan (before it became Sunnyvale) and they looked the tires (I believe per the criteria in the TSB) and got the tires replaced. I didn't have the Roadster, so no soft top. Both my power windows failed at almost the same time. Those were replaced under warranty.

FWIW, most things that went wrong on my Z were all under warranty, fortunately. But yeah, my mom's 96 Toyota Camry V6 which she had from 96 until early 08 (when it was totaled) was a lot more reliable than my 04 350Z that I had from late 03 to mid-2011.

My experiences w/the Z, my former Maxima along w/my parents' experience w/their 07 Altima Hybrid are overall decent enough that leasing a Leaf is still high up on my list. Hope to have in a few weeks, assuming I can get a good/decent 2 year lease deal. Looking forward to free juice at work. :D Won't need to charge much at all at home, probably almost never on weekdays due to my short commute (~12 miles, one way, w/not much highway).
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Re: Nissan Reaches Settlement in Defective LEAF Battery Clas

Wed Jul 17, 2013 10:35 pm

In case the gist of Tony's comment was missed, he was being sarcastic... :roll:

TonyWilliams wrote:This settlement is FANTASTIC news for Nissan. Any future challenge is stopped in its tracks!!!!
Bravo again, Nissan. Nothing actually fixed, no real money spent, no admitted culpability, everything under the carpet with NDA's.
Bravo!!!
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Re: Nissan Reaches Settlement in Defective LEAF Battery Clas

Wed Jul 17, 2013 11:17 pm

z0ner wrote:Wow. Just when I thought Nissan couldn't sink any lower... The whole "we'll extend the battery warranty out of the goodness of our heart", a complete and utter sham.

My lease terminates next April. I'll be saving a few extra duckets to get the RAV4 EV. Similar companies like Toyota and Honda know how to foster good relationships with their customers - hence their success. May Nissan choke on my 2/3rd's capacity paperweight.


Honda isn't really any better, at least if you're the owner of a 2006-2008 Honda Civic Hybrid. The class action suit due to a software update causing reduced battery range (and this increasing fuel consumption) resulted in these owners getting:

1. $100 cash
2. $1000 off towards the purchase or lease of another new Honda product within 12 months of issuance IF you get rid of the car, or $500 if you don't
3. An additional 12 month/12k extension of the original battery warranty

https://hchsettlement.com/Home.aspx

Although Toyota is paying something like $1.5B as part of its settlement of the unintended acceleration claims, for the longest time it denied there was a problem with its cars.
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Re: Nissan Reaches Settlement in Defective LEAF Battery Clas

Thu Jul 18, 2013 3:13 am

As a former Honda Civic Hybrid owner, please never claim Honda is good to owners with battery issues. I had to complain to the BBB and file a complaint with the Attorney General to get a new battery at 60k. The software update reduced me at least 5% and I sold the car for less than a non hybrid would sell for.

All deals involve negotiations with all parties. Nissan could have been thinking that a capacity warranty was a good idea anyway and worked it into the settlement. It isn't like the judge made up the warranty - Nissan made it up and offered it as part of a settlement.

BTW - I never got $100 cash for my troubles on the battery issue....

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