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derdlim

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20kw mobile fastcharger for 3phase support. 3Phase ist in Germany in every House.

http://www.evtec.ch/c5website/.../mobilefastcharger/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
 
derdlim said:
20kw mobile fastcharger for 3phase support. 3Phase ist in Germany in every House.

http://www.evtec.ch/c5website/.../mobilefastcharger/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


Please correct this link.
 
http://www.evtec.ch/c5website/index.php/de/produkte/mobilefastcharger/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
 
Consolidating the links kindly provided by others:
MobileFastCharger Product Page (10 or 20 kW) (Googled to English)
MobileFastCharger YouTube video

Note the "mobile charger almost" is Google's humorous interpretation of the original German "MobileFastCharger".

Technical specifications
The portable fast charger is available in two performance categories (10kW or 20kW).
No installation costs - three-phase connection CEE 16 / 32A connector
AC input voltage 400 VAC ± 10% (400VAC nominal)
DC output voltage 250 - 420VDC, current 0A - 60A
96% efficiency at 50% load, 95% at 100% load
Power factor> 0.99 at> 50% load
Built-in Ground Fault Detection
Fault current and overcurrent protection
CHAdeMO Protocol Rev 0.9
MFC_Small3.jpg
 
Very nice, but who here has 400VAC, 3 phase service? Thats commercial only (and 480VAC in the U.S.), this isn't going to help any residential Leaf owners.
 
mitch672 said:
Very nice, but who here has 400VAC, 3 phase service? Thats commercial only (and 480VAC in the U.S.), this isn't going to help any residential Leaf owners.
Eeeks! I hadn't thought about that yet, though given all the costs of installing a fast charger, what's another few thousand for a 15 or 25 kVA 480 VAC to 400VAC step down / buck transformer? It's also possible they might work on a version for the use market for a nominal 480 VAC 3 phase supply. That's professional mobile though... I can't ever recall plugging in or working with anything thats over 208V 3 phase. For DC fast charging, all the units we've seen so far are all 3 phase input, which means commercial (or maybe large multi-tenant like apartment buildings?)
 
ElectricVehicle said:
Note the "mobile charger almost" is Google's humorous interpretation of the original German "MobileFastCharger".
Well, "fast" means "almost" in German. Not sure what it means for quick chargers. That they are almost here perhaps? Google is innocent in this case. Well, almost innocent. The author of that article used a barely domesticated English term and the translation algorithm got consequently confused.
 
Well, if they made it in a 240V single phase version, a 100 amp breaker would just about handle it. Noit sure why one would want this at home, but a 480V 3 phase version might be just the thing for an auto service shop, once EVs become popular enough to be serviced somewhere other than the dealer... Looks as if a 40 amp 480 3 phase breaker would be more than enough.
 
I emailed them and got a bit more information:

20 kW: 14,900 euro (excl VAT), roughly $20,200 USD.
10 kW: Pricing not finalized yet, estimated 2,000 to 3,000 euro less than 20 kW., roughly $17,500 to $16,100 USD.

The product is in the CHAdeMO and IEC certification processes.
Primary market is Europe, focusing first on European certifications.
They are looking for a company in the USA to produce the MobileFastCharger in licence according to national regulations.

Interesting unit. Nissan has certainly set a new price point with the Nissan 50 kW Quick Charger for $10,000, when they become available.

INPUT
Plug CEE Plug 32 A (EN 60309-2) / 3P, N, PE
Voltage 400VAC 10%
Current 14 / 28 A
Frequency 45-65 Hz
Power Factor >0,99 at 50% load or more
Efficiency 94% at 100% load
95% at 50% load
Protection Residual current breaker
Over current circuit breaker
Transient protection

OUTPUT
Plug JEVS G105, CHAdeMO compliant
Power 9.2 / 18.3 kW
Voltage range 250 – 420** V DC
Max. Current 30 / 60 A DC
Protection Short circuit proof
Output fuse
Under-voltage shutdown

GENERAL
Operating temp -20 to +45°C
Storage temp -40 to +85°C
Humidity 5% to 95% RH non-condensing
Dimensions 38 cm x 99 cm x 88 cm (D x H x W)
Weight 65kg
Protection IP 44 (indoor and outdoor use)
Standby power 30W

STANDARDS
CHAdeMO Rev 0.9
Electrical safety IEC 61851-1 + IEC 61439-2
EMC EN 61000-6-1, -2, -3, -4
Harmonics EN 61000-3-2

OPTIONS
Authentication RFID system
Connectivity Ethernet
Powerline
GSM/GPRS/UMTS
 
ElectricVehicle said:
I emailed them and got a bit more information:

20 kW: 14,900 euro (excl VAT), roughly $20,200 USD.

INPUT
Voltage 400VAC 10%

OUTPUT
Power 9.2 / 18.3 kW
Weight 65kg

OPTIONS
Authentication RFID system
Connectivity Ethernet
Powerline
GSM/GPRS/UMTS

I got the same reply from my email. I like how light and portable this thing is, and the options list is impressive for a "portable" unit.

One additional piece of information that I got is that it will operate on 208v 3 phase (USA standard).

I sent back an additional email to ask whether this would exceed 20kW, or not, and specified that going over 20kW was not an option!

Tony
 
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