kizan971
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charging question

Sat Nov 04, 2017 4:48 pm

So I just drove my 2013 leaf home from the dealership and it double lined on millage when I got home so I put it on 110. Now I noticed my house has a weird plug and under the cover it says 30 amps 120v. will that be more efficient for charging and can I just buy adapter to convert the end from 110 to whatever this plug is?

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Re: charging question

Sat Nov 04, 2017 5:19 pm

A TT-30 trailer type outlet will only provide more power if the EVSE (charging cable) can handle more than 12 amps. The cable that comes with the car is rated for 12 amps, so while the 30 amp outlet might be a little safer with a good-fitting adapter, it wouldn't charge the car any faster.
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kizan971
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Re: charging question

Sat Nov 04, 2017 5:27 pm

Thank you. looks like I need to find one that can handle 30 amps. is this considered lvl2?

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Re: charging question

Sat Nov 04, 2017 6:00 pm

kizan971 wrote:Thank you. looks like I need to find one that can handle 30 amps. is this considered lvl2?

Doesn't seem like it per http://www.sae.org/smartgrid/chargingspeeds.pdf

https://store.clippercreek.com/level1 has the ACS-25 (a 20 amp EVSE) but it says the connection is hardwired. You also wouldn't want to put a 30 amp continous load on an outlet that's rated for 30 amps. 24 amps should be the max safe continuous load.

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kizan971
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Re: charging question

Sat Nov 04, 2017 7:32 pm

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00MFVI92S/re ... 5OQTWC4CLP

would this be a better option? im trying to obtain a 4hr charge time or less.

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Re: charging question

Sat Nov 04, 2017 8:14 pm

kizan971 wrote:https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00MFVI92S/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B00AAKQWKM&linkCode=as2&tag=recargo-20&linkId=F5LSCR5OQTWC4CLP

would this be a better option? im trying to obtain a 4hr charge time or less.


Your outlet provides 120 volts. The above is a 240 volt level 2 charging station. You need to find a 120 volt charging station that provides more than 12 amps to the car's onboard charger but no more than 24. Don't expect four hour empty to full recharge times from a level one charging station - it isn't going to happen. Your best bet is to ask Clipper Creek if they will install a TT-30 plug on their ACS 25. That would give you almost double your present charge rate.
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Re: charging question

Sat Nov 04, 2017 9:15 pm

kizan971 wrote:So I just drove my 2013 leaf home from the dealership and it double lined on millage when I got home so I put it on 110. Now I noticed my house has a weird plug and under the cover it says 30 amps 120v. will that be more efficient for charging and can I just buy adapter to convert the end from 110 to whatever this plug is?
Probably a dedicated 30 amp circuit. An electrician can make this a 240 volt circuit and set you up with L2 charging.

More efficient or faster than a regular outlet, no. Convert to L2 for faster charging. Clipper Creek LCS-30 would work perfect.
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Re: charging question

Sat Nov 04, 2017 11:16 pm

The Zencar 32A portable EVSE will supply 120v @ 24 amps if you order it with that setting:

http://www.e-zencar.net/product/evse-32a/

You can make or purchase a NEMA 14-50R to TT-30p adapter pretty easily.

120V@24A provides roughly a 2.9 kW charging rate so 4hrs of charging would add about 11.6 kWh to the pack.
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Re: charging question

Sun Nov 05, 2017 5:40 am

It depends on what Leaf you drove. If it's a S model without the charge package you won't gain a thing, it maxes out at 12a @ 120v, if it does have the charger package or is anything other than a S model, you could get double the charge speed using an EVSE that will go up to 24a @ 120v. Of course if you could get the outlet rewired for 240v you could get double the charging speed again or 4x what you currently get. Note a S model without the charger package will max out at 16a @ 240v.
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kizan971
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Re: charging question

Sun Nov 05, 2017 8:00 am

Is that somwthing I can figure out with the vin? The kid at the dealership didnt k ow muxh about the car so im not aure what it has. 1 thing I know is it doesnt have the quick charge port on top of thr normal EV port.

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