Why 200 miles??

[caffeinekid]

You can't force every car to be like PIP - you can't force everyone to charge, even if they had pip type plugins. These things are better done with carbon tax etc.

you can't force everyone to change?? why not?? TVs are a great example of how the government mandated and forced a change in the way TV outlets broadcast and how people receive the signal. calling for more taxes is just a typically vapid method of inducing change.

You could force it, but to say that it would hurt people is putting it mildly. What would happen to the few new models that low-income people can afford (such as the Versa)? Is forcing people to go without even more basic stuff (or forcing even more people to become dependent on government handouts) a good thing?

Well now that you mention it, this whole subject could be dealt with through financial regulation. It is the lack of adequate and sane financial regulation that permits so many to have so much in the first place, including these low-income people who cannot really afford a new car. Google what Honda had to say about this recently. And corruption of currency after all has a direct correlation with pollution. Personal EVs ultimately only serve as a stop gap in the much larger problem of Americans' dubious interpretation of "automobile = freedom," so the sooner people come to terms with it the better.

This way of thinking where we worry so much about people's freedom to pollute needs to change proactively or it will end up being forced on us- probably by the Chinese when we wake up one day soon to realize that they have been playing us for half a century.

 

[Deleted member 14724]

Well now that you mention it, this whole subject could be dealt with through financial regulation. It is the lack of adequate and sane financial regulation that permits so many to have so much in the first place, including these low-income people who cannot really afford a new car. Google what Honda had to say about this recently. And corruption of currency after all has a direct correlation with pollution. Personal EVs ultimately only serve as a stop gap in the much larger problem of Americans' dubious interpretation of "automobile = freedom," so the sooner people come to terms with it the better.

This way of thinking where we worry so much about people's freedom to pollute needs to change proactively or it will end up being forced on us- probably by the Chinese when we wake up one day soon to realize that they have been playing us for half a century.

Well, for some people, the lack of car means more than just some abstract notion of freedom. It means halving your income because you can't drive to a job, or it means relocating from a safer neighborhood to an less safe one to rear your children. That's a lot bigger deal than any sort of abstraction. It means massive changes for people that they will perceive as negative. In places which have elections, this will cause any number of issues. In places without them, there will be necessary police crackdowns on unrest.

 

[eloder]

There's no point to forcing EVs, and the need to encourage EV development outside of private business doesn't need to happen much longer.

ICE drivers will be looking quite foolish buying relatively expensive vehicles that cost even more to drive per mile, and soon "range anxiety" will be something relegated to gas drivers who suddenly find all of their gas stations replaced with supercharger-like electricity stations. I wouldn't be surprised to see standard gasoline (not diesel) become as rare as diesel once was within 20 years, maximum, and that diesel will be mostly just to power turbine electric hybrids for tractor trailers.

I think people really underestimate just how fast EVs are about to explode and take off. Tesla alone is going to transform the industry within 5 years, and other major car companies will be following right along within the next decade.

 

[dgpcolorado]

Understanding electric car 'range anxiety' could be key to wider acceptance

 

[nerys]

There is a pretty good reason to push ev faster.

Ev is consumer friendly but they are not government and corporate friendly

Hydrogen fuel cell is the opposite. Very gov corp friendly not very consumer friendly

Ev needs to have an insurmountable foothold before fuel cells become practical or we are screwed