scottf200
Well-known member
June 2018
Yes, the snuck another one in on me June 30th. Look how they heck they started out July!!jlv said:Yes, the first cars charged at Framingham Friday night. I was there just before it opened.
Kennebunk (Southbound) ME also opened up on Friday according to reports. It listed as the last of the June openings on supercharge.info.
Glad to see that one's official now. When I checked it on the 2nd or 3rd it wasn't. Definitely closes a hole. Alamosa, Montrose, Steamboat Springs, Telluride and Walsenburg have all been hanging fire for quite a while (at least as far as supercharge.info knows), but are still shown as 2018 targets on Tesla's SC pages, with Idaho Springs and Conifer shown for 2019. Up in Montana, although the I-15 ones and Kalispell are all still listed for 2018, it's obvious they'll miss the summer vacation season yet again.dgpcolorado said:Not sure when it was turned on but Aspen CO was reported on July 2 as being added to the Tesla website. It is using the urban-style pedestals.
Makes Independence Pass (12,095 feet, Continental Divide, closed in winter) really easy now. Need to make a mini road trip over that way — McClure Pass, Aspen Supercharger Station, Independence Pass, Poncha Springs Supercharger Station, Monarch Pass (398 miles).
Aspen CO was expansion, as opposed to infill. There are lots of "in permitting" locations that are expansion.GRA said:Per a poster on TMC the Leavenworth, WA SC near the junction of U.S. 2 and 97 is now working, although it remains unofficial - in fact, Tesla doesn't even show an SC by that name or on any town nearby on their SC list. This is the first U.S. SC which expands coverage (rather than being infill) since Estes Park, IIRR. About the only new U.S. SC of the 22 known to be under construction that could even be argued is an expansion is York, PA at the junction of I-83 and U.S. 30, and that's stretching a point.
Right, forgot about Aspen. As for "in permitting", yes there are expansion sites there, but as I've pointed out before"in permitting" can mean next to nothing. By my count there are currently 16 U.S. SCs that have been "in permitting" for 6 months or more on supercharge.info, with three over a year: Statesville, NC (which should be removed judging by the TMC commentary) @ 641 days; Ft. Stockton, TX (a critical site for I-10) @ 605 days; and Emporia Kansas (infill for density) @ 416 days. Infill is necessary in some areas to shorten legs, but mainly seems to be aimed at boosting capacity for Model 3s in major urban corridors at the moment. Expansion of coverage has virtually stopped.dgpcolorado said:Aspen CO was expansion, as opposed to infill. There are lots of "in permitting" locations that are expansion.GRA said:Per a poster on TMC the Leavenworth, WA SC near the junction of U.S. 2 and 97 is now working, although it remains unofficial - in fact, Tesla doesn't even show an SC by that name or on any town nearby on their SC list. This is the first U.S. SC which expands coverage (rather than being infill) since Estes Park, IIRR. About the only new U.S. SC of the 22 known to be under construction that could even be argued is an expansion is York, PA at the junction of I-83 and U.S. 30, and that's stretching a point.
However, infill is useful too, especially in very crowded places such as California and the East Coast.
Infill predominates when expansion is close to complete since the effort is then focused on areas with high Tesla penetration.dgpcolorado said:Aspen CO was expansion, as opposed to infill. There are lots of "in permitting" locations that are expansion.GRA said:Per a poster on TMC the Leavenworth, WA SC near the junction of U.S. 2 and 97 is now working, although it remains unofficial - in fact, Tesla doesn't even show an SC by that name or on any town nearby on their SC list. This is the first U.S. SC which expands coverage (rather than being infill) since Estes Park, IIRR. About the only new U.S. SC of the 22 known to be under construction that could even be argued is an expansion is York, PA at the junction of I-83 and U.S. 30, and that's stretching a point.
However, infill is useful too, especially in very crowded places such as California and the East Coast.
Unfortunately expansion is nowhere close to complete, as even the primary Interstate system still lacks SCs on several routes or legs (I-10/15/20/25/29/35/40/55/75/94/95, and then there are all the U.S. and state highways that need to be covered. The need for the latter two is primarily out west, where the distances between interstates are much greater, and numerous outdoor recreation sites are only accessible well off the interstates. East of the Mississippi the interstate density is usually high enough that it's only necessary to have SCs on them at junctions with U.S. or state highways to serve the areas in between them. For example, compare the area bounded by Interstates 68/81/64/79, mainly in Virginia/West Virginia, with the Four Corners area bounded by Interstates 70/25/40/15, which encompasses parts of California/Nevada/Utah/Colorado/New Mexico/Arizona.SageBrush said:Infill predominates when expansion is close to complete since the effort is then focused on areas with high Tesla penetration.dgpcolorado said:Aspen CO was expansion, as opposed to infill. There are lots of "in permitting" locations that are expansion.GRA said:Per a poster on TMC the Leavenworth, WA SC near the junction of U.S. 2 and 97 is now working, although it remains unofficial - in fact, Tesla doesn't even show an SC by that name or on any town nearby on their SC list. This is the first U.S. SC which expands coverage (rather than being infill) since Estes Park, IIRR. About the only new U.S. SC of the 22 known to be under construction that could even be argued is an expansion is York, PA at the junction of I-83 and U.S. 30, and that's stretching a point.
However, infill is useful too, especially in very crowded places such as California and the East Coast.
A source from Tesla has confirmed that Alexandria, MN site has been the hold up on the I94 route. They will look for new site nearby, but won’t try to continue work on the I-94 route until next spring. This likely means I-29 and the trans-Canada route (which Elon said on Twitter would all be complete in 2018) will also be delayed as a result. This makes the 4th year in a row Tesla has planned Superchargers in North Dakota and failed to deliver (Supercharger section on Tesla’s website once claimed ND super chargers were coming in 2015).
It's now official, and apparently replaces the planned SC in Wenatchee, which has now been removed from Tesla's SC list (it was listed as 'Coming soon').GRA said:Per a poster on TMC the Leavenworth, WA SC near the junction of U.S. 2 and 97 is now working, although it remains unofficial - in fact, Tesla doesn't even show an SC by that name or on any town nearby on their SC list. <snip>
Just the Bay Area to Jasper NP is over a 1300 mile trip. It's actually doable with an S100D using just SCs right now, although you'd need charging at the destination in order to make the return trip. With an X or smaller battery S you'd need longer SC stops as well as an additional stop to charge after Kamloops to reach all the way to Jasper NP.GRA said:I had some outdoorsy friends who recently completed a road trip from the Bay Area: I-5 to Ashland, OR, then cut over to U.S. 97 via Crater Lake and up through Peachland, Kelowna, Revelstoke, Golden and Lake Louise to Jasper NP in B.C., then back to Lake Louise, Waterton NP, Stanley ID then through SE Oregon (Steens Mtns.) and NE California (Warner Mtns) and back to the Bay Area; not sure whether they came down U.S. 395 to Reno and then I-80 or cut back over to I-5. If they had a Tesla the Leavenworth SC site (wasn't open yet) plus the 'coming soon' ones listed for Okanogan and Osoyoos would have been needed, plus several others that aren't even posited by Tesla as of yet.
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