evnow
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At this point anyone who claims Soul EV is not a compliance car is a sitting duck :lol:TomT said:I like ducks... :lol:
At this point anyone who claims Soul EV is not a compliance car is a sitting duck :lol:TomT said:I like ducks... :lol:
evnow said:At this point anyone who claims Soul EV is not a compliance car is a sitting duckTomT said:I like ducks... :lol:
TomT said:And some of us don't care whether it is a compliance car or not as long as it is well implemented and priced, which the Kia is...
evnow said:At this point anyone who claims Soul EV is not a compliance car is a sitting duckTomT said:I like ducks... :lol:
Its obvious to me that Kia is being conservative. Dipping one toe into the EV waters. If the waters stay warm after a year then they might jump in.TonyWilliams said:I'm not convinced that Kia won't still go for it.
Yes, it's obvious that limited numbers in only CARB-ZEV states is today. We don't know tomorrow, and Kia clearly isn't going to say.
Coming out with a second electric car is NOT compliance car mentality. They are just being conservative....Last month, the two carmakers announced that they would build electric versions of the Hyundai Avante (Elantra) and Kia K3 (Forte) compacts. ...
That goes for all compliance cars. Afterall GM is supposed to be releasing a 200 mile BEV and Audi has been releasing an endless stream of press release EVs ...TonyWilliams said:I'm not convinced that Kia won't still go for it.
Yes, it's obvious that limited numbers in only CARB-ZEV states is today. We don't know tomorrow, and Kia clearly isn't going to say.
evnow said:That goes for all compliance cars. Afterall GM is supposed to be releasing a 200 mile BEV and Audi has been releasing an endless stream of press release EVs ...TonyWilliams said:I'm not convinced that Kia won't still go for it.
Yes, it's obvious that limited numbers in only CARB-ZEV states is today. We don't know tomorrow, and Kia clearly isn't going to say.
Smidge204 said:Honest question, because I wouldn't think so and I don't recall any other thus-labeled "compliance car" being offered worldwide in any quantity.
TonyWilliams said:I'm not convinced that Kia won't still go for it.
Yes, it's obvious that limited numbers in only CARB-ZEV states is today. We don't know tomorrow, and Kia clearly isn't going to say.
pkulak said:The Rav4 EV defined the entire term of "compliance car", yet people love that thing. Still, it would be a better car if Toyota didn't make it.
JeremyW said:Drove the Kia Soul EV at the LA Auto Show today... Was disappointed that B mode wasn't quite strong enough to give a one peddle driving experience. Also felt that from 0-30 mph there was a limiting of torque and 30-45 gave more power. Most of my driving is 0-30 mph. This feels like a downgrade in performance vs. my leaf.
Both the test drive car and the cars in the show had what appeared to be premature wear on the drivers seat bottom side cushion closest to the door. I'm afraid the leather may not age well. Also the test car's air conditioned seat didn't seem to work.
I was so certain this would be my next car after the leaf. Now I'm not sure it will be. I want something with better performance. What I really want is an Active E. The i3 is too ugly, too expensive, too few kWh, and lacks CHAdeMO. But it's the only performance EV short of a tesla (which is too big and too expensive for me right now).
I can understand about not liking the i3's price and lack of range, but now that eVgo is really starting to kick into gear with their retrofits of CCS at their existing Freedom stations plus putting them at all new ones, and Kia is also outfitting their dealerships with dual-mode chargers, CCS is now looking to be a pretty viable network in So Cal and the Bay Area. Have you had a look at Plugshare recently, to see if there are CCS chargers located to meet your needs?JeremyW said:I was so certain this would be my next car after the leaf. Now I'm not sure it will be. I want something with better performance. What I really want is an Active E. The i3 is too ugly, too expensive, too few kWh, and lacks CHAdeMO. But it's the only performance EV short of a tesla (which is too big and too expensive for me right now).
hingisfan said:How does the Soul EV look for my worst case commute?
50km (31mi) from home to work, parked outside at work for 12 hours overnight, no charging available whatsoever, then 50km (31mi) back home. Can it be done in windy -25C (-13F) winter with snow covered roads?
Is this looking possible or should I be saving for a Tesla?
hingisfan said:How does the Soul EV look for my worst case commute?
50km (31mi) from home to work, parked outside at work for 12 hours overnight, no charging available whatsoever, then 50km (31mi) back home. Can it be done in windy -25C (-13F) winter with snow covered roads?
Is this looking possible or should I be saving for a Tesla?
Berlino said:hingisfan said:How does the Soul EV look for my worst case commute?
50km (31mi) from home to work, parked outside at work for 12 hours overnight, no charging available whatsoever, then 50km (31mi) back home. Can it be done in windy -25C (-13F) winter with snow covered roads?
Is this looking possible or should I be saving for a Tesla?
If you're talking about 2-inches of unplowed snow, that's a range killer. I don't think you'd make -15°C, let alone at -25°C.
At home, is there a heated garage? What speeds would you be driving? Is there no way to access even a 120V receptacle at work?
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