philipscoggins
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My 2012 LEAF
Replaces 1998 Honda Accord with 213,000 miles
Saves me about $160/month in gas.
Replaces 1998 Honda Accord with 213,000 miles
Saves me about $160/month in gas.
Nissan Accord?philipscoggins said:My 2012 LEAF
Replaces 1998 Nissan Accord with 213,000 miles
Saves me about $160/month in gas.
GRA said:Honda Accord?philipscoggins said:My 2012 LEAF
Replaces 1998 Honda Accord with 213,000 miles
Saves me about $160/month in gas.
Good edit.philipscoggins said:GRA said:Honda Accord?philipscoggins said:My 2012 LEAF
Replaces 1998 Honda Accord with 213,000 miles
Saves me about $160/month in gas.
Huh?
Stanton said:Are they no longer checking/requiring installation of L2 when buying/leasing a Leaf? While there were ways around it, they buying process strongly suggested purchase of an L2 along with the car. Now, it turns out that people figured out you could upgrade the existing Nissan L1 EVSE to L2, but the point still remains: charging a fully (or even mostly) depleted Leaf on L1 (on a regular basis) will lead to a very unhappy owner.
For a short commute like yours L1 charging will suffice. Besides being much slower than L2 the only significant disadvantage of L1 charging is that it is less efficient, about 75% versus 86% for L2 (240 V, 16 A) charging.RonDawg said:I was told of its availability, but having an L2 was not a requirement in any such way for me to get a Leaf. Tustin Nissan made no strong suggestions to get one either. I was simply made aware of the various charging times and the battery degradation issue.
Other than the fact that it takes forever to charge a well depleted Leaf using L1, is there an issue with relying solely on L1 charging? I do not have an L2 station, and I am still debating whether to bother with one as I am only leasing. In the week I've had this car it hasn't been a problem for me to simply plug the car in using L1 when I get home from work (15 miles round trip) and set the timers for an 80% charge. I do have access to a pay Blink charger near my work if necessary if I let the battery get too depleted.
dgpcolorado said:For a short commute like yours L1 charging will suffice. Besides being much slower than L2 the only significant disadvantage of L1 charging is that it is less efficient, about 75% versus 86% for L2 (240 V, 16 A) charging.
The other disadvantage is that preheating is less effective at 120 V, 12 A but that likely won't be significant for most people in Southern California except for those who live high in the mountains. Pre-cooling ought to work pretty well on L1.
There are a number of LEAF owners here who use L1 charging at home. As long as you don't find the speed an inconvenience, you should do ok with it.
Yes, cold is relative I suppose. My low Tuesday morning was -15ºF. Down in town I heard one report of -26ºF. While much colder than usual, such below zero lows generally happen a few times each winter. Since then, however, I've had six straight days of sun—great for solar—with highs of 38ºF the last three days. Sunny plus high 30s is pleasantly mild and typical for January here in the mountains (my house is at 7670 feet elevation). By contrast, when I was growing up in Hawai'i the record low for Honolulu was 58ºF, although it is somewhat lower nowadays.RonDawg said:Thanks. The pre-heating does work well for me, but of course this is SoCal and not Colorado. It has been very convenient for our unseasonably chilly temps up until just the other day. The timer or remote pre-heating/cooling is perhaps the best feature of this car, IMHO even more than the fact that it does not use gasoline or diesel.
I know you'll scoff at my idea of cold, but it is not normal here for temps to drop into the (positive) 30's overnight for days on end!
GRA said:Good edit.philipscoggins said:Huh?
dgpcolorado said:For a short commute like yours L1 charging will suffice. Besides being much slower than L2 the only significant disadvantage of L1 charging is that it is less efficient, about 75% versus 86% for L2 (240 V, 16 A) charging.RonDawg said:I was told of its availability, but having an L2 was not a requirement in any such way for me to get a Leaf. Tustin Nissan made no strong suggestions to get one either. I was simply made aware of the various charging times and the battery degradation issue.
Other than the fact that it takes forever to charge a well depleted Leaf using L1, is there an issue with relying solely on L1 charging? I do not have an L2 station, and I am still debating whether to bother with one as I am only leasing. In the week I've had this car it hasn't been a problem for me to simply plug the car in using L1 when I get home from work (15 miles round trip) and set the timers for an 80% charge. I do have access to a pay Blink charger near my work if necessary if I let the battery get too depleted.
The other disadvantage is that preheating is less effective at 120 V, 12 A but that likely won't be significant for most people in Southern California except for those who live high in the mountains. Pre-cooling ought to work pretty well on L1.
There are a number of LEAF owners here who use L1 charging at home. As long as you don't find the speed an inconvenience, you should do ok with it.
Reddy said:Here's some more info: http://www.mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=10965&p=252095#p252095
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