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Yes, the same way they said Tesla S costs $500 a month (or was that $300 ?).vsiev said:So I think Elon's statement is pausible.
This is incorrect, the water cooling tube only contacts about 1/4 of the cells diameter. It's also separated by a grey silicone thermal pad.drees said:Tesla's pack has room for a water-cooling tube to be wrapped around both sides of each cell.
Seems like the ones around here equipped with vapor-recovery are much slower than that! Refueling a 20 gallon tank seems to take around 8 minutes, so that's about 2.5GPM.Smidge204 said:Gasoline dispensers are limited to 10GPM. Let's say the average is 5 GPM. That's 3-6 minutes for your typical vehicle.
Tony, let me know if the RAV4 EV gets closer to 20K. That may make it impossible to resist, Then I can figure out how to add a CHAdeMO and/or Supercharger port!TonyWilliams said:Like a Rav4 EV? It is all that right now. Currently $51k, with about $25k in discounts/credits/rebates.
TomT said:Yep, my next EV has to have a minimum real range of 100 miles at a true 65 mph freeway speed.
Zythryn said:Sublime said:I thought I also heard him mention that autopilot may debut on this model.
He said he would like to see it. But basically it is just a distant possibility right now.
Basically, if it becomes available, they will consider it, but I wouldn't plan on it.
Yes, I think autonomous driving is our version of the "flying cars".Goodtohave said:The 2014 Mercedes S class can do a lot of autonomous driving in traffic it but they decided to limit the ability as the legal liability would be a nightmare
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evnow said:Yes, I think autonomous driving is our version of the "flying cars".
The Tesla founder notes the following tidbits on the Gen III car:
- now expects the car to arrive in 3-4 years (which is later than the original estimate, but a sooner arrival than the last update/tweet when the car’s arrival was pegged in the 2017-2018 timeframe)
- 200 miles of range (in fact Tesla notes that all their cars will now always have at least 200 miles of range)
- working with Panasonic with new cell electrochemistry to make affordable 200+ mile ranges happen
- “strong family resemblance” to the Model S
- use of ultra-capacitors that “the public doesn’t know about”
- all cars to utilize supercharge
all cars to utilize supercharge
Remember even in 2015 superchargers cover only some freeways. You can't go into the interior.KJD said:The item that caught my eye was this.
all cars to utilize supercharge
At that point I would say do I really need a gas car at all ?
evnow said:Remember even in 2015 superchargers cover only some freeways. You can't go into the interior.KJD said:The item that caught my eye was this.
all cars to utilize supercharge
At that point I would say do I really need a gas car at all ?
For eg., in the Tesla forums people (in the northwest) want CHAdeMO adapters because those chargers cover interior much better than supercharger.
No not Canada. For eg. you can't go around Olympic peninsula or Oregon coast.Zythryn said:Are you referring to the interior of Canada?
The US is pretty well plastered by 2015.
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Yes, Chademo is present now only in a few states.KJD said:Looking at the Tesla supercharger map, I can see 5 stations planned for Utah. At the same time Nissan has planned for zero.
Combine this with an affordable EV and they will gain at least one more customer and maybe a few more.
evnow said:Zythryn said:The other big problem is, superchargers are not there at your destination - only along the way. Destination superchargers would be expensive as land prices are expensive in cities.
Sublime said:As owners of sub 100 mile range EVs we, of all people, should understand that you don't need L3 charging at your destination.
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You put the stations at destinations and the model falls apart. People start using it heavily during peak power rates and like you said, real estate gets very pricey.
evnow said:Sublime said:As owners of sub 100 mile range EVs we, of all people, should understand that you don't need L3 charging at your destination.
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You put the stations at destinations and the model falls apart. People start using it heavily during peak power rates and like you said, real estate gets very pricey.
As a car owner I don't care about the model - may be as an investor I do.
As a car owner, I want to be able to charge at my destination and head back home. I can go to Vancouver or Portland, but how do I come back ?
Actually if we have longer range EVs need for around the city L2 becomes less.Sublime said:L2. 7kWh will get you about 24mph.
L2 is becoming pretty prevalent at destinations, by 2015 if Tesla is cranking out the volume of EVs they anticipate in addition to what's already on the road, L2 will be in just about every parking lot.
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