Losing my mind or people are only paying $10K for Spark EV?

[misterno]

http://chevysparkforum.com/topic/2018-9999-having-some-fun-with-the-dealers/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

This is a joke right?

 

[cwerdna]

I'm guessing these aren't EVs, but rather the ICE version.

 

[mwalsh]

There are a few good deals to be had on a former GM Special Event Spark EVs with very low miles @ $17-19k. Heck, might be a spectacular deal if one could still take the tax credit (though I have doubts this will be the case - cars all have tags and HOV decals).

Example (Rotolo has 3 or 4, as I recall):

http://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/detail/617302277/overview/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Heck, I've been tempted myself, if I could get $10-11k in trade on my LEAF. Even more so if I could take the tax credit and get a rebate!

 

[2k1Toaster]

There are a few good deals to be had on a former GM Special Event Spark EVs with very low miles @ $17-19k. Heck, might be a spectacular deal if one could still take the tax credit (though I have doubts this will be the case - cars all have tags and HOV decals).

Example (Rotolo has 3 or 4, as I recall):

http://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/detail/617302277/overview/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Heck, I've been tempted myself, if I could get $10-11k in trade on my LEAF. Even more so if I could take the tax credit and get a rebate!

Can in CO! If you import a BEV that hasn't been registered in Colorado before, you get the full state BEV credit. Nice way to knock another few thousand off the price.

 

[JeremyW]

No QC and only 3.3kW charging...

Edit: Might not have QC

 

[cwerdna]

I'm guessing these aren't EVs, but rather the ICE version.

Also keep in mind that per http://www.chevrolet.com/spark-fuel-efficient-car.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;, the ICE Spark has an MSRP starting at $12,170. I don't think anyone in their right mind would pay MSRP on a Spark. The ICE version has gotten terrible reviews, besides having not-so-great fuel economy for a car with its modest size and horsepower.

No QC and only 3.3kW charging...

Spark EV does have optional Frankenplug... aka J1772 CCS aka Combo1 of SAE Combo.

 

[misterno]

I'm guessing these aren't EVs, but rather the ICE version.

Also keep in mind that per http://www.chevrolet.com/spark-fuel-efficient-car.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;, the ICE Spark has an MSRP starting at $12,170. I don't think anyone in their right mind would pay MSRP on a Spark. The ICE version has gotten terrible reviews, besides having not-so-great fuel economy for a car with its modest size and horsepower.

No QC and only 3.3kW charging...

Spark EV does have optional Frankenplug... aka J1772 CCS aka Combo1 of SAE Combo.

I googled

Spark MSRP starting at 26,820

I don't where you got 12K

 

[mgs333]

I'm guessing these aren't EVs, but rather the ICE version.

Also keep in mind that per http://www.chevrolet.com/spark-fuel-efficient-car.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;, the ICE Spark has an MSRP starting at $12,170. I don't think anyone in their right mind would pay MSRP on a Spark. The ICE version has gotten terrible reviews, besides having not-so-great fuel economy for a car with its modest size and horsepower.

No QC and only 3.3kW charging...

Spark EV does have optional Frankenplug... aka J1772 CCS aka Combo1 of SAE Combo.

I googled

Spark MSRP starting at 26,820

I don't where you got 12K

http://www.chevrolet.com/spark-fuel-efficient-car.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

 

[GeekEV]

I'm guessing these aren't EVs, but rather the ICE version.

+1
The EV forums are over here: http://www.mychevysparkev.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

 

[misterno]

I just custom build myself a Chevy Spark 1LT Auto

It comes with cruise control also

All for 15,920

I am not sure if this is before or after $7500 credit

I know that would be insane

 

[GeekEV]

I just custom build myself a Chevy Spark 1LT Auto

It comes with cruise control also

All for 15,920

I am not sure if this is before or after $7500 credit

I know that would be insane

Are you not getting it? Spark (despite its electric sounding name) comes in both gasoline and electric versions. The pricing you're looking at is for the gasoline version...

 

[misterno]

I just custom build myself a Chevy Spark 1LT Auto

It comes with cruise control also

All for 15,920

I am not sure if this is before or after $7500 credit

I know that would be insane

Are you not getting it? Spark (despite its electric sounding name) comes in both gasoline and electric versions. The pricing you're looking at is for the gasoline version...

I see thanks

So the question is why is EV version is way more expensive?

 

[cwstnsko]

You may not be able to get a Spark EV for $10K, but at least one guy in CA claims he can get a Focus Electric for under $9K

http://www.myfocuselectric.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=2341&start=30#p15892

After looking at the website, I think he is likely confused, but still, the recent price drops on the FFE make it very attractively priced

 

[cwerdna]

I just custom build myself a Chevy Spark 1LT Auto

It comes with cruise control also

All for 15,920

I am not sure if this is before or after $7500 credit

I know that would be insane

Are you not getting it? Spark (despite its electric sounding name) comes in both gasoline and electric versions. The pricing you're looking at is for the gasoline version...

I see thanks

So the question is why is EV version is way more expensive?

Batteries are currently very expensive. Even at the prices the Spark EV is selling at, it's 99% certain that GM's losing $ on each Spark EV sold. They simply don't have the economies of scale w/their puny sales numbers (http://insideevs.com/monthly-plug-in-sales-scorecard/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false w/which to amortize all the costs (R&D, tooling, testing, validation, documentation, support, training, etc.)

 

[misterno]

You know I am thinking
Maybe I should not include battery replacement cost

Toyota yaris is depreciating in value for a different reason
At the end they both depreciate

So the question is what is the resale value on an Ev?

It can not be miles cuz in Ev this means not much I think it is the battery health.

But in ice cars miles is the essence in calculating the resale

Can someone help me here?

 

[dhanson865]

You know I am thinking
Maybe I should not include battery replacement cost

Toyota yaris is depreciating in value for a different reason
At the end they both depreciate

So the question is what is the resale value on an Ev?

It can not be miles cuz in Ev this means not much I think it is the battery health.

But in ice cars miles is the essence in calculating the resale

Can someone help me here?

http://www.mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=8354" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; is 25 to 30 pages on resale value of the 2011 leaf. If you read enough you will see discussion of miles vs battery.

 

[cwerdna]

BTW, OP, because you were asking questions about the Spark EV and Kia Soul EV, many of us were operating under the mistaken assumption that you actually resided in a state where those cars were available. I only later learned from searching your posts that you're in Texas.

Please update your location info via User Control Panel (near top) > Profile (left side)? That way, we don't need to ask in future posts/threads or do sleuthing to deduce it.

Spark EV is only available in CA and OR. http://www.kia.com/us/en/vehicle/soul-ev/2015/experience?story=hello" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; says Soul EV is only initially available in California. There's no point in even discussing the former while residing in TX. As for the latter, I don't recall Kia's plans but it might be awhile before the Soul EV shows up there, if ever.

 

[LeftieBiker]

New York gets the Soul EV in January.