DesertSprings
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I wouldn't expect any significant changes for the 2016 Leaf. It will be the 2017 Leaf (which should launch in summer 2016) that will be the all new design.
There has been rumbling from a couple of dealerships that June-July of this year is a good time to look into replacing a Leaf.
Moof said:It is certainly possible that we will see a range bump on the current chassis before a full refresh. Without throwing out a bone of some sort Leaf sales are likely to tank as we rapidly approach a full refreh and with all the 200 mile press releases from Tesla, Hyundai, GM, etc. It is not unreasonable to think their battery efforts would be somewhat decoupled from their chassis schedule.
GetOffYourGas said:Of course, this is all wishful thinking until we see what Nissan gives us for the 2016 Leaf.
LeftieBiker said:There has been rumbling from a couple of dealerships that June-July of this year is a good time to look into replacing a Leaf.
Translation: they are getting nervous about people skipping the next model year and waiting for the '17 Leaf. (Which really should be called the Leaf 3, IMO, as the 2013" cars are different from the 2011-12 cars.)
dhanson865 said:2015 = Leaf 1.3 if it has the heat pump, 1.2 if not
DesertSprings said:dhanson865 said:2015 = Leaf 1.3 if it has the heat pump, 1.2 if not
I'd argue 1.3 or 1.4. Since they all come with the "lizard" battery. I figure that's worth an increment.
Ask your dealer to perform the update referenced in bulletin NTB14-027asimba2 said:... and brakes that aren't grabby. ...
DanCar said:Ask your dealer to perform the update referenced in bulletin NTB14-027asimba2 said:... and brakes that aren't grabby. ...
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According to the link and the photo of the receipt NTB14-027 has instructions to reprogram the brakes.asimba2 said:NTB14-027 is the occupant sensor issue that resulted in the airbag recall, which I had done. If there is a solution for the grabby brakes that doesn't take away all the regen like the update for the 2011-2012 models, I am interested.
DesertSprings said:From a product change perspective, I'd say the lizard battery is a significant difference. It is a new battery with new performance characteristics. Just because we haven't figure out what those difference are (and whether they are good or bad), doesn't mean the change shouldn't be documented.
dhanson865 said:DesertSprings said:From a product change perspective, I'd say the lizard battery is a significant difference. It is a new battery with new performance characteristics. Just because we haven't figure out what those difference are (and whether they are good or bad), doesn't mean the change shouldn't be documented.
yeah, you have a point there but we can decide how much of a variance it is.
2011 = Leaf 1.0
2011 with cold weather package = Leaf 1.1
2012 = Leaf 1.2
2013 = Leaf 1.3 if it has the heat pump, 1.2 if no heat pump
2014 = Leaf 1.3 if it has the heat pump, 1.2 if no heat pump
2015 = Leaf 1.3.5 if it has the heat pump, 1.2.5 if no heat pump
how about 1.3.5 for a 2015 if it has the lizard battery and heat pump and 1.2.5 if it has a lizard battery and no heat pump? Add .5 to the end of any earlier year if the battery is replaced with a lizard battery.
I just don't think plopping the 2015 battery pack in a 2011 car with no cold weather package gets you to something significantly better than a Leaf with the cold weather package.
If we see really good reports on degradation of the lizard pack we can tune that .5 upwards as far as .9 and if we hear bad things about lizard pack degradation we can tune that .5 downwards as far as .1.
tkdbrusco said:My lizard pack sucks! Down to 276 GIDS after 7000mi. Nothing impressive to me.
Down from what? Is it do to cold whether? What range are you getting?tkdbrusco said:My lizard pack sucks! Down to 276 GIDS after 7000mi. Nothing impressive to me.
DanCar said:Down from what? Is it do to cold whether? What range are you getting?tkdbrusco said:My lizard pack sucks! Down to 276 GIDS after 7000mi. Nothing impressive to me.
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