NissanLeafCamper
Well-known member
Hi Guys,
Thank you both I appreciate the input. We talk about being inexpensive, but I do wonder how far down the road each item will be? When we talk about an ice cooler we need to buy ice every so often to keep things cool. With the electric cooler it will be electricity, but there is a free charging station a couple of blocks from where I normally am parked. Then there is the whole 'no charge to charge' incentive going on right now (Granted I am not entirely sure if a lease is what I'd want but still an option).
So I wonder:
Cooler needs Ice which equals money
Propane stove needs gas which equals money
Electric Cooler and Induction cooker needs electricity (And an inverter to get it all started) but I am in a position where I might not have to pay much, or possibly any?, electricity.
This is something that I want to do until an electric van comes around so the electricity 'incentive' is still possible.
How much would buying ice and propane equal years down the road?
Price for a bag of a 10lb pound of ice appears to be between 2 to 4 dollars
Price for a propane tank seems to range between $5 to $8 dollars
From what I have read a bag of ice can last about 4 days in a good cooler. 365 days in a year. 365/4= 91 times ice bag must be bought. 91* 2 = 182 and 91*4= 364 That means I would pay between $182 to $364 dollars a year in ice.
The 16 Oz Propane bottle my Portable Stove uses (The Coleman brief case which is just so heavy) seems to let me cook about 7 times from what I spoke with my family. Let's say it can range between 7 - 10 cooking sessions. I will cook about 2 to 3 times a day. 2 if I eat out and 3 if I stick strictly to cooking my meals.
--- So 2 meals every day for 365 days (One Year) is equal to 730 cook 'outs' in a year If I can cook 7 times before needing to buy another tank that is 730/7= 104 propane tanks. 104 propane tanks can have a cost ranging between (5 per unit or 8 per unit) 104*5= $520 and aalso 104*8= $832
--- So 3 meals every day for 365 days is equal to 1095 cook 'outs' in a year. If I can cook 10 times before needing to buy another tank that is 1095/10 = 109 propane tanks. 109 Propane tanks can have a cost ranging from 109*5= $545 to $872
This gives us a cost range of $182 (Low End) to $364 (High End) in ice and $520 (Low End) and $872 (High End) in Propane per year.
Both figures combined respectively gives us $702 (Low End) and $1236 (High End yearly cost.
I am basically sticking with the leaf until an electric van comes out... which I think could be sometime in 2 to 3 years. Once I am in my van I will still be doing the same gig... hopefully.
702*3 years = $2106 (Low End) and $3708 (High End)
Cost for an induction cooker? $57 for a 1300w cooker in amazon.
Cooler
Compressor type: $1,045.00
http://www.amazon.com/fridge-marine-compressor-camping-freezer/dp/B00T0BSRLE" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Non Compressor type: $71.99
http://www.amazon.com/Koolatron-P25-26-Quart-FunKool-Cooler/dp/B0001MQ7EK" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Inverter
Modified Sine wave: $150
Pure sine wave: $574.46
http://www.amazon.com/Go-Power-GP-SW1500-12-1500-Watt-Inverter/dp/B00153EWLY" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
So if I were to keep it cheap I see the total for the electrics being about $300 USD and if I go Expensive It will be about $1,700 USD. Or just getting the pure sine wave and a cheap cooler being about $700? The electricity bit COULD be free. So from the numbers electric seems to be cheaper than propane/ice....
Thoughts? I'm horrible at math by the way so if I messed up then I'm sorry. Electric does seem to be so cheap though. Almost only 1.5K USD?
Thank you both I appreciate the input. We talk about being inexpensive, but I do wonder how far down the road each item will be? When we talk about an ice cooler we need to buy ice every so often to keep things cool. With the electric cooler it will be electricity, but there is a free charging station a couple of blocks from where I normally am parked. Then there is the whole 'no charge to charge' incentive going on right now (Granted I am not entirely sure if a lease is what I'd want but still an option).
So I wonder:
Cooler needs Ice which equals money
Propane stove needs gas which equals money
Electric Cooler and Induction cooker needs electricity (And an inverter to get it all started) but I am in a position where I might not have to pay much, or possibly any?, electricity.
This is something that I want to do until an electric van comes around so the electricity 'incentive' is still possible.
How much would buying ice and propane equal years down the road?
Price for a bag of a 10lb pound of ice appears to be between 2 to 4 dollars
Price for a propane tank seems to range between $5 to $8 dollars
From what I have read a bag of ice can last about 4 days in a good cooler. 365 days in a year. 365/4= 91 times ice bag must be bought. 91* 2 = 182 and 91*4= 364 That means I would pay between $182 to $364 dollars a year in ice.
The 16 Oz Propane bottle my Portable Stove uses (The Coleman brief case which is just so heavy) seems to let me cook about 7 times from what I spoke with my family. Let's say it can range between 7 - 10 cooking sessions. I will cook about 2 to 3 times a day. 2 if I eat out and 3 if I stick strictly to cooking my meals.
--- So 2 meals every day for 365 days (One Year) is equal to 730 cook 'outs' in a year If I can cook 7 times before needing to buy another tank that is 730/7= 104 propane tanks. 104 propane tanks can have a cost ranging between (5 per unit or 8 per unit) 104*5= $520 and aalso 104*8= $832
--- So 3 meals every day for 365 days is equal to 1095 cook 'outs' in a year. If I can cook 10 times before needing to buy another tank that is 1095/10 = 109 propane tanks. 109 Propane tanks can have a cost ranging from 109*5= $545 to $872
This gives us a cost range of $182 (Low End) to $364 (High End) in ice and $520 (Low End) and $872 (High End) in Propane per year.
Both figures combined respectively gives us $702 (Low End) and $1236 (High End yearly cost.
I am basically sticking with the leaf until an electric van comes out... which I think could be sometime in 2 to 3 years. Once I am in my van I will still be doing the same gig... hopefully.
702*3 years = $2106 (Low End) and $3708 (High End)
Cost for an induction cooker? $57 for a 1300w cooker in amazon.
Cooler
Compressor type: $1,045.00
http://www.amazon.com/fridge-marine-compressor-camping-freezer/dp/B00T0BSRLE" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Non Compressor type: $71.99
http://www.amazon.com/Koolatron-P25-26-Quart-FunKool-Cooler/dp/B0001MQ7EK" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Inverter
Modified Sine wave: $150
Pure sine wave: $574.46
http://www.amazon.com/Go-Power-GP-SW1500-12-1500-Watt-Inverter/dp/B00153EWLY" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
So if I were to keep it cheap I see the total for the electrics being about $300 USD and if I go Expensive It will be about $1,700 USD. Or just getting the pure sine wave and a cheap cooler being about $700? The electricity bit COULD be free. So from the numbers electric seems to be cheaper than propane/ice....
Thoughts? I'm horrible at math by the way so if I messed up then I'm sorry. Electric does seem to be so cheap though. Almost only 1.5K USD?