kubel
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I would do it. I either want a <$30K 250-mile BEV or a <$25K 75-mile series hybrid. Make it so.
Leon said:At 23K and driving, I would have to say my LEAF has been the best car I've ever owned. I'm not worried about the battery yet. Once Nissan gets the new factories up and running, this whole issue may disappear. Yeah, I could use more range. The whole crying over infrastructure is just stupid. If they put in 20 chargers in every parking lot and we all drove EV's, you still couldn't get a spot to charge and you are back needing a battery that will get you home. As it becomes more common knowledge as to the limitations of BEV, maybe you can buy more appropriately. I won't give my LEAF back until they give me a better replacement. Fair is fair and this car rocks. For me, the cost was lower than I would have spent otherwise, the operation costs just make me laugh and the car fits my commute well. I've ridden in a Model S and I have seen the future.
I'm not calling my LEAF degraded. When it's hot, it doesn't charge to the level that it does when it's cooler. I still don't know if this is degraded or a natural effect of heat that mostly disappears when the temps drop. For what this car cost me, I'm still happy. After the fact. I would still have bought my 2011 LEAF. I'm still in line for a Next Generation EV. Tesla? BMW? Infiniti? I don't know who delivers next, but I'm ready to spend the money...
ztanos said:Leon said:At 23K and driving, I would have to say my LEAF has been the best car I've ever owned. I'm not worried about the battery yet. Once Nissan gets the new factories up and running, this whole issue may disappear. Yeah, I could use more range. The whole crying over infrastructure is just stupid. If they put in 20 chargers in every parking lot and we all drove EV's, you still couldn't get a spot to charge and you are back needing a battery that will get you home. As it becomes more common knowledge as to the limitations of BEV, maybe you can buy more appropriately. I won't give my LEAF back until they give me a better replacement. Fair is fair and this car rocks. For me, the cost was lower than I would have spent otherwise, the operation costs just make me laugh and the car fits my commute well. I've ridden in a Model S and I have seen the future.
I'm not calling my LEAF degraded. When it's hot, it doesn't charge to the level that it does when it's cooler. I still don't know if this is degraded or a natural effect of heat that mostly disappears when the temps drop. For what this car cost me, I'm still happy. After the fact. I would still have bought my 2011 LEAF. I'm still in line for a Next Generation EV. Tesla? BMW? Infiniti? I don't know who delivers next, but I'm ready to spend the money...
The degradation has a little consistency with the type of heat you are seeing. This based on your location. The hotter your car is consistently staying, the more likely you are to see permanent degradation. Where are you located?
I'm not sure I can think of anyone who actually measured capacity loss on that new of a Leaf. There are plenty of other factors that can cause one's range to vary. Most likely you'll be okay doing that commute for three years even with significant capacity loss, but of course only time will tell. Can you find a shady parking spot even if it's a bit further, and/or keep your state of charge any lower? Reducing SOC should help with battery life. Perhaps you can leave it parked at work each day with about five bars of charge.tvo7 said:Maybe you all can answer this.
I have a 3 month Leaf. NO loss in capacity bars but I have noticed that I keep getting shorter ranges with the car with the same type of driving.. I live in Texas where my car sits outside in the hot parking lot. Reading these battery degradation problems, I am really worried. I am stuck in in 3 year contract with evgo network. The Toyota Rav 4 I would not mind having and I would not not mind selling my car and getting a rav4EV but I do not know when it will come out. I am worried too if the rav4 will have battery degradation problems also.
ANy suggestions? Should I just keep driving the car. My daily commute is around 40 miles. Or get my name on the waiting list for the Rav4.
tvo7 said:Maybe you all can answer this.
I have a 3 month Leaf. NO loss in capacity bars but I have noticed that I keep getting shorter ranges with the car with the same type of driving.. I live in Texas where my car sits outside in the hot parking lot. Reading these battery degradation problems, I am really worried. I am stuck in in 3 year contract with evgo network. The Toyota Rav 4 I would not mind having and I would not not mind selling my car and getting a rav4EV but I do not know when it will come out. I am worried too if the rav4 will have battery degradation problems also.
ANy suggestions? Should I just keep driving the car. My daily commute is around 40 miles. Or get my name on the waiting list for the Rav4.
tvo7 said:Maybe you all can answer this.
I have a 3 month Leaf. NO loss in capacity bars but I have noticed that I keep getting shorter ranges with the car with the same type of driving.. I live in Texas where my car sits outside in the hot parking lot. Reading these battery degradation problems, I am really worried. I am stuck in in 3 year contract with evgo network. The Toyota Rav 4 I would not mind having and I would not not mind selling my car and getting a rav4EV but I do not know when it will come out. I am worried too if the rav4 will have battery degradation problems also.
ANy suggestions? Should I just keep driving the car. My daily commute is around 40 miles. Or get my name on the waiting list for the Rav4.
kubel said:I would do it. I either want a <$30K 250-mile BEV or a <$25K 75-mile series hybrid. Make it so.
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